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The Scum of Stars: 'The Legend of the Stardust Brothers'
The discussion surrounding 'The Legend of the Stardust Brothers' unpacks the film's intricate blend of humor, music, and social commentary. The podcast delves into the film's narrative mechanics, noting how it challenges traditional storytelling by presenting a series of loosely connected musical numbers that explore the rise and fall of its characters. The hosts reflect on the film's cultural significance, particularly its critique of the pop idol system in Japan, and how it mirrors the real-life pressures faced by aspiring artists. Through a lively exchange, they dissect memorable musical performances, the film's quirky characters, and its surrealistic moments that keep viewers both entertained and questioning the nature of fame. The episode encapsulates the essence of the film as a dynamic exploration of stardom, identity, and the often harsh realities lurking behind the glitz and glamour, inviting listeners to reconsider their perceptions of pop culture and celebrity.
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Megan Murphy:Pretty great.
Matt Austin:It's anomaly presents with your friends, the podcastronauts.
Matt Austin:Sounds like a lot of supernatural baloney to me.
Megan Murphy:Supernatural, perhaps baloney, perhaps nothing.
Matt Austin:Hello and welcome to the Anomaly Presents podcast.
Matt Austin:I'm leaving that in there forever.
Matt Austin:I love it so much.
Megan Murphy:Forever.
Megan Murphy:It's us.
Megan Murphy:It's us so much.
Kristen Pacheco:But like, 100% baloney.
Kristen Pacheco:100% supernatural and baloney.
Megan Murphy:Another t shirt idea.
Megan Murphy:1 second.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Matt Austin:God, I would wear the shit out of that shirt.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:So welcome.
Matt Austin:This is anomaly presents, the podcast about the genre movies that, uh, inspired the genre film festival, the Anomaly Film Festival in Rochester, New York, this year, November 6 through 10th, at the little Theater in beautiful Rochester, New York.
Matt Austin:Uh, also, we have a little pit stop over at the Dryden Theater.
Matt Austin:They're.
Matt Austin:They're letting us, uh, come and muck up the joint for a night, uh.
Kristen Pacheco:Cheer the curtain rising.
Kristen Pacheco:That's why.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:The entire time.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, do some, uh, breathing exercises.
Megan Murphy:It takes longer than you think.
Matt Austin:Yeah, work on that oxygen level because it does take a little longer than we anticipated.
Megan Murphy:You take a breath.
Megan Murphy:I'll clap.
Megan Murphy:And you take a breath.
Matt Austin:It had been a hot minute since I'd seen that curtain go up.
Matt Austin:And boy, oh boy, did it just get funnier and funnier.
Matt Austin:It was like three minutes for that thing to get to the ceiling.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Matt Austin:My name is Matt Austin.
Matt Austin:I'm joined by our podcastronauts.
Matt Austin:We've got Megan Murphy.
Megan Murphy:Yay.
Megan Murphy:It's me.
Megan Murphy:I'm back.
Megan Murphy:I'm always here.
Megan Murphy:I'll never leave.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Matt Austin:That's why we love you, Kristen Pacheco.
Kristen Pacheco:Good evening, everybody.
Kristen Pacheco:I'm also here.
Kristen Pacheco:I just wait.
Kristen Pacheco:I sleep.
Kristen Pacheco:I just sleep here.
Kristen Pacheco:I'm in this little box waiting for you all to come back.
Megan Murphy:Then the light comes on.
Kristen Pacheco:Hey, it's time.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Like the monkeys all over again.
Matt Austin:We're exactly.
Megan Murphy:Oh, no.
Megan Murphy:We're in a monkey box.
Matt Austin:We are.
Matt Austin:We are in the monkey box.
Matt Austin:We are the podcast.
Matt Austin:Or not.
Matt Austin:We are the scum of stars.
Matt Austin:We are here to talk about the legend of the Stardust brothers, a film that.
Matt Austin:This is interesting.
Matt Austin:I didn't.
Matt Austin:I don't do we do this on purpose?
Matt Austin:I don't remember because this is now our third of three podcasts where it's about the.
Matt Austin:The trials and tribulations of.
Megan Murphy:This one is not on purpose.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:We were gonna do four accidentally on a row, I think, but one.
Kristen Pacheco:One got the bump for right now, so one's on pause.
Megan Murphy:I know Spice world and head was on purpose, but I don't remember us having a conversation about Stardust brothers because I think this got moved and it just happened to.
Kristen Pacheco:It works.
Megan Murphy:Slot in.
Matt Austin:Yeah, it's slotted in.
Megan Murphy:Stop trying to plan stuff.
Megan Murphy:We should just not plan because then it works.
Megan Murphy:It's a good lesson for us to learn.
Megan Murphy:Everybody don't plan anything ever.
Matt Austin:That's right.
Kristen Pacheco:Not even a film festival.
Megan Murphy:No, it'll happen.
Megan Murphy:It's fine.
Matt Austin:It'll all be fine.
Matt Austin:Don't worry.
Matt Austin:If you don't plan it, then you have nothing to be disappointed about.
Megan Murphy:Passes are on sale now.
Matt Austin:Not yet.
Matt Austin:Oh, no.
Megan Murphy:Take it back.
Megan Murphy:Just give me the money.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Matt Austin:If you see any of us on the street, just throw $110 at us and we'll make sure you can get through the movies.
Megan Murphy:Yes, I'll make a note.
Matt Austin:So, yeah, this is our third of three movies about the trials and tribulations of being a prefabricated band.
Matt Austin:We started with Spice World, which was kind of the.
Matt Austin:The more fun version.
Matt Austin:I guess that was the most fun you could have as a prefab band.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Matt Austin:And then we had the very angsty head, the monkey's magnum opus, which is kind of what we thought was the dark mirror image of being the prefabricated band.
Matt Austin:And then the legend of the Stardust brothers, which is a japanese film that, um, people stayed home in droves for.
Matt Austin:I think when it came out, if I recall correctly, as I looked into the history of this thing, they weren't ready.
Kristen Pacheco:They didn't know.
Kristen Pacheco:A masterpiece right in front of them, right there.
Matt Austin:It got re released maybe four or five years ago.
Matt Austin:And I mean, if you know, you know, I guess is kind of the thing with this one.
Matt Austin:But it is also the story of kind of the prefabricated band, two guys put together to become, I guess, pop idols.
Matt Austin:Is that kind of how it goes.
Matt Austin:The teen idols, the two japanese guys, they're out there, they're chosen.
Matt Austin:One is kind of a crooner, the other one's a punk rocker.
Matt Austin:They come together to form the Stardust brothers, the scum of stars, which is maybe my favorite lyric in the whole goddamn movie.
Matt Austin:And it comes together in a film that it is, I think it's primarily like a collection of music videos with some very tenuous connective tissue in between, which sounds kind of goofy, but they are so stylistically interesting.
Matt Austin:Scum of stars is very guarcoted.
Matt Austin:You're right, Salador.
Matt Austin:That is 100% right.
Matt Austin:But it's quite the exploration of how pop stardom, celebrity, uh, propaganda, like it's it's a real.
Matt Austin:It's a real deep, deep dive into celebrity culture.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Like sexism in there.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And all that.
Kristen Pacheco:And then never being famous enough.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:It's a fun movie, though.
Megan Murphy:It's fun.
Megan Murphy:It's fun.
Megan Murphy:I promise.
Megan Murphy:It's fun.
Megan Murphy:It's dealing with a lot of stuff.
Megan Murphy:Put in a very fun, uh, early MTV aesthetic.
Matt Austin:Yeah, I was gonna say, we're describing it like it's a star is born.
Matt Austin:And it really isn't.
Megan Murphy:Like, it's a musical.
Kristen Pacheco:It's a musical.
Kristen Pacheco:We get an animated section.
Megan Murphy:Like, there's a stop motion.
Megan Murphy:There's creatures.
Kristen Pacheco:I keep forgetting about them.
Megan Murphy:I gotta talk all about, like, shingo's multimedia horror breakdown.
Matt Austin:Yeah, it was incredible.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:But so this is directed by Makoto Tezuka, who is the son of legendary manga creator behind.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Matt Austin:Ozaka Ozaki.
Matt Austin:And it's Astro Boy, if you're familiar with Astro Boy.
Matt Austin:That's the director's dad.
Matt Austin:But he did this all on his own.
Matt Austin:There was really no tagging into daddy.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I read an interview because someone asked him, hey, the animated sequence did your dad was involved?
Megan Murphy:And he's like, no, he had other things to do, which reads a lot.
Megan Murphy:Like, he wasn't interested.
Megan Murphy:Completely disinterested.
Kristen Pacheco:No, he's busy.
Megan Murphy:He didn't want to dip his toe into this.
Megan Murphy:A man who is known as the Walt Disney of Japan in some circles, probably, maybe didn't want to, like, put his style on this.
Megan Murphy:Fair enough.
Matt Austin:Basically, I think that's kind of how it boiled down, was like, yeah, I have a little bit too much prestige for this, but you go ahead and make your thing.
Matt Austin:I hope he does okay.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Doing just fine.
Kristen Pacheco:It just took 40 years.
Matt Austin:I think the story was the director ran into the musician that wrote all the music for this.
Matt Austin:He liked it and wanted to make it into a movie.
Matt Austin:So here we go.
Megan Murphy:Oh, it was a concept album, which I think going in, if you go, oh, it turns out most of these songs were pre written for a concept, and then they made a movie.
Megan Murphy:You're like, okay, yeah, I got.
Megan Murphy:That fits.
Megan Murphy:That fits tracks.
Kristen Pacheco:I mean, like, we're telling a story, but, I mean, there is a plot.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, it's happening.
Kristen Pacheco:Things jump a little bit.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, it's song to song.
Megan Murphy:It's a song with a little bit of thread, which is all I need, really.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It's kind of the.
Matt Austin:The precursor of the modern jukebox musical, except, you know, the songs in the jukebox musicals and this one you don't so much, but they're fun.
Matt Austin:They're good songs.
Megan Murphy:I know these songs.
Megan Murphy:I love crazy game.
Megan Murphy:What a great song.
Kristen Pacheco:London Booth.
Matt Austin:London Booths was great.
Kristen Pacheco:That one surprised me.
Kristen Pacheco:I was like, they both.
Kristen Pacheco:I mean, I think I was just surprised.
Kristen Pacheco:I think the first song, I was like, okay, this is more standard fare.
Kristen Pacheco:I don't think it's that.
Kristen Pacheco:It's not bad, but then it's like, oh, okay, we're doing something here.
Megan Murphy:Like, you start with, like, a punk and then a new wave.
Megan Murphy:Like, okay, these are your characters.
Megan Murphy:The punk guy and the new wave guy.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Tale is oldest time you tag together the punk rocker with the new waver.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I'm already starting.
Megan Murphy:Can is way too tightly wound, I think, for, like, any sort of lead singer.
Megan Murphy:Like, if you're new wave, you're supposed to be cool in that, you know you're cool.
Megan Murphy:He does not know this, and he cannot prove it to himself.
Megan Murphy:So he's just like this.
Megan Murphy:Like me, like me as he sings.
Megan Murphy:Oh, is that me?
Kristen Pacheco:Is it shingo?
Megan Murphy:Oh, sorry.
Megan Murphy:I met Shingo.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:He's like, ah, like me.
Megan Murphy:Like me.
Megan Murphy:Or Kant's like, I know I'm awesome.
Megan Murphy:Thank you.
Megan Murphy:At no point is he ever shook about how cool he is.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It sincerely makes me wonder how much of this the mighty boosh guys saw at any point.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Megan Murphy:It's this.
Megan Murphy:It's the same, like, friend.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Kristen Pacheco:Rivalry.
Kristen Pacheco:They don't become friends until about the end.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Like, the cool guy and the tightly wound dude.
Matt Austin:And even.
Matt Austin:Even look of Ken is very close to what.
Matt Austin:What Vince noir's look is for a season or so of the hair.
Megan Murphy:The opening number, cat.
Megan Murphy:It is like a continually his hair, the entire song.
Megan Murphy:Like, I was watching it this time.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, I don't think there's a moment where he stops, like, combing his hair.
Kristen Pacheco:No, I like.
Kristen Pacheco:I like when I know where it's a little bit ahead, but when they're doing, like, their montage to get them ready to be idols and they're cutting his hair, I was like, yeah, it's the same.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Matt Austin:There's no difference.
Megan Murphy:You don't mess with perfection.
Megan Murphy:He knows what he's doing.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:So what?
Kristen Pacheco:They open.
Kristen Pacheco:We're following the plot.
Kristen Pacheco:So they.
Matt Austin:Yeah, so it opens on that opening song, which is essentially kind of the setting the stage for what the Stardust brothers are kind of the word.
Megan Murphy:We're answered for it.
Matt Austin:We'll get there.
Matt Austin:It's bookends, right?
Matt Austin:So yeah.
Matt Austin:Kind of describing, you know, how it all started.
Matt Austin:The two guys singing about being the Stardust brothers.
Matt Austin:That, in front of a request, somewhat receptive, but mostly not audience.
Megan Murphy:Also completely in black and white, which.
Matt Austin:I found really cool.
Matt Austin:I thought that was a nice little touch.
Megan Murphy:It already starts aesthetically interesting where you're like, I'm trying to figure this out.
Megan Murphy: So something like: Megan Murphy:Everything's like, oh, no.
Megan Murphy:Then they show up and they're in full color and, like, shiny suits.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, okay, what's happening here?
Megan Murphy:What's happening?
Megan Murphy:I'm already like, I don't know what's going on and I like it.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Full on silver Lemay suits.
Megan Murphy:Yep.
Matt Austin:Very.
Megan Murphy:It's a great intro.
Megan Murphy:There's a Stardust brothers.
Megan Murphy:Do you remember us?
Megan Murphy:It's been two years.
Megan Murphy:Do you remember us?
Megan Murphy:Like that.
Kristen Pacheco:Smoking and like.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Did I pay for this?
Megan Murphy:Like it already?
Megan Murphy:It starts that thread of, like, desperation and fakeness that is in most of the songs up until a point which I'll talk about later.
Megan Murphy:But, like, all the songs are kind about, like, fame, not creation.
Megan Murphy:Do you remember me?
Megan Murphy:Not like, I like this song and I want to sing to, you know, convey anything, but I'm really cool and I want to be cool and famous.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:The intro song, it always reminds me of the vaudeville, the old vaudeville joke where it's.
Matt Austin:Yeah, you know, you're doing a bit.
Matt Austin:You only play this club twice in your life.
Matt Austin:Once on the way up and once on the way down.
Matt Austin:And I just like to say, it's so nice to be back.
Megan Murphy:Yes.
Megan Murphy:That's the energy.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Matt Austin:Exactly.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Matt Austin:It's that very, like, sweaty Vegas style version of these pop idols.
Matt Austin:And then we kind of go into the flashback of how the Stardust brothers became the Stardust brothers, which they.
Matt Austin:It's essentially they're approached by big, fancy music producer.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:For atomic records.
Matt Austin:For atomic records.
Matt Austin:Telling them that they are both.
Megan Murphy:Don't worry about it.
Matt Austin:They're both musical genius.
Matt Austin:They could be stars within a week, but they have to work together.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Because they have separate bands and different styles and they hate each other.
Megan Murphy:Well.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Shingo hates Ken.
Megan Murphy:Ken doesn't kind of give a crap except to push back a little.
Matt Austin:Exactly.
Kristen Pacheco:Well, and then the thing about Shingo that kind of cracks me up is with this guy is so, so, so, so desperate and.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Kristen Pacheco:But.
Kristen Pacheco:And so he's, you know, beating on his bandmates.
Kristen Pacheco:He's like, I'm not super close for a.
Kristen Pacheco:Then the 50,000 like the check just.
Megan Murphy:Goes, oh, my God.
Megan Murphy:It was so good.
Megan Murphy:We saw in his head.
Megan Murphy:And it's money.
Megan Murphy:And.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:I think they established the characters really well.
Megan Murphy:Here we get the feeling of like who they are.
Megan Murphy:What their deal is.
Megan Murphy:And like.
Megan Murphy:Again how desperate.
Megan Murphy:Particularly Shango is for fame.
Megan Murphy:That's what he wants.
Megan Murphy:He wants fame.
Megan Murphy:He wants fame.
Megan Murphy:And money's probably second.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And then third.
Megan Murphy:I'm making a good song.
Megan Murphy:I don't know.
Megan Murphy:It might not be third.
Megan Murphy:It might be farther down.
Matt Austin:It's on the list somewhere.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Somewhere.
Megan Murphy:I loved his band's matching outfits with like the sweaters like those stripes and the white shorts.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, oh, look at them.
Megan Murphy:I feel bad for them.
Megan Murphy:They're trying real hard.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:They were not like he deserves.
Kristen Pacheco:They were not bad.
Megan Murphy:No.
Megan Murphy:No.
Megan Murphy:They did fine.
Megan Murphy:They deal with this dude all the time.
Kristen Pacheco:Just projecting.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And then what?
Kristen Pacheco:Then that's when we cut to the next day and they're at the.
Kristen Pacheco:Or whenever they go for the meeting at atomic records.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:That sounds right.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And they're.
Kristen Pacheco:What?
Kristen Pacheco:They can't.
Kristen Pacheco:They don't know where they're going.
Kristen Pacheco:And then that's when they meet.
Matt Austin:What's her name?
Megan Murphy:Marie Moe.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Who's just trying.
Megan Murphy:She just wants to be a singer.
Megan Murphy:She keeps breaking it.
Megan Murphy:But apparently I don't know how historic this is that they just weren't interested in a girl singer because I know there was like women idols.
Megan Murphy:So I don't know if that's supposed to be just this company or is it historical thing?
Megan Murphy:I don't know.
Megan Murphy:Because that's basically what she's told is that, you know, you're a girl so you can't do this.
Kristen Pacheco:And.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:I couldn't get the sense if it was that's just not what they were looking for or just they had enough women singing so they weren't into it or there was no real context to it.
Matt Austin:But be that as it may.
Matt Austin:She was offered a position as their fan club manager instead of a performer.
Megan Murphy:Well.
Kristen Pacheco:They negotiate that first.
Kristen Pacheco:We can't forget the goons.
Megan Murphy:Okay.
Megan Murphy:These guys.
Megan Murphy:These.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Kristen Pacheco:We love goons with style.
Kristen Pacheco:And there are many goons in this.
Megan Murphy:Movie with pumpkins with the metal bat.
Kristen Pacheco:And they get bonked on the head.
Megan Murphy:They do a lot of bonking.
Megan Murphy:Plus I love that Ken is calling Remo a turtle because she's dressed in green and kind of like curled down.
Megan Murphy:And then they shot to a beat where she has a turtle shell.
Megan Murphy:Just so we visually understand where he's coming from, I think.
Kristen Pacheco:And also, it keeps coming back.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, later.
Megan Murphy:Well, yeah.
Megan Murphy:We find out she has a superpower.
Megan Murphy:It involves being a ball.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Matt Austin:Katamaris herself at a certain point.
Matt Austin:It's amazing.
Kristen Pacheco:And twice she does.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Amazing.
Megan Murphy:I was like, why didn't we know this before?
Megan Murphy:But I like that because I kind of sets it up.
Megan Murphy:She just.
Megan Murphy:She does kind of go into a defensive ball.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep, that did crack me up.
Kristen Pacheco:And then that's.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, she's camera.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And that's when they go into the.
Kristen Pacheco:The meeting and they bring her with them.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:They also.
Megan Murphy:You can tell they both kind of like her.
Megan Murphy:Like, both like, oh.
Megan Murphy:Like, she has cool energy and she's been in this building before, but also, like, she's cute.
Megan Murphy:And also, oh, yeah, they're both like, uh.
Megan Murphy:Oh, that's a little bit of heart.
Megan Murphy:Eyes going on.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Megan Murphy:That won't be a problem later.
Megan Murphy:Never.
Megan Murphy:Never is never.
Megan Murphy:No jealousy here.
Kristen Pacheco:No, we can't just have thruffles.
Kristen Pacheco:They go into the meeting with the executive.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God, I love him so much.
Megan Murphy:He's so cool.
Megan Murphy:Because, oh, God, did I write down his name?
Megan Murphy:Because that guy is an actual, like, japanese crooner.
Megan Murphy:Like, that guy is very well known.
Megan Murphy:Like, they cast him specifically because, like, oh, God, the sideburns.
Megan Murphy:Like, if you look at album covers of his at certain time, it's just all, like, sideburns and lighting.
Kristen Pacheco:Oh, my God, I was looking up and he's my boy from house.
Matt Austin:Oh, yeah, he is.
Megan Murphy:Okay.
Megan Murphy:Uh, kehiko Ozaki.
Megan Murphy:Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Megan Murphy:I love everything about him in this film.
Kristen Pacheco:Oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God, I gotta go back.
Megan Murphy:I love that.
Megan Murphy:Okay.
Megan Murphy:I can go back and watch that.
Megan Murphy:Cuz I'm like, look at him.
Megan Murphy:That's my boy.
Megan Murphy:I love, because he's got the glass.
Megan Murphy:He looks a little like Jim Jones, if Jim Jones ran a record company, which I'm like, that's gotta be on purpose, right?
Megan Murphy:All white suit, these mirror glasses, which are amazing.
Megan Murphy:Slick hair.
Megan Murphy:As I said, sideburns, very important power burns.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep, yep, yep.
Megan Murphy:And he's just mysterious because, like, his eyes are always covered.
Megan Murphy:He only reflects you.
Megan Murphy:He's in a desk with, like, a bright triangle.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, he's like, behind.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Oh, it's so great visual, like, oh, this guy's, uh, no joke.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, he's no joke.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Almost put you in the mind of swan from Phantom of the paradise a little bit.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, a little, a lot.
Megan Murphy:You know, I love my swans.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:So, of course, signing a contract with this guy would, I'm sure is fine.
Megan Murphy:Like, visually, it doesn't look terrifying or a bad idea at all.
Matt Austin:No, it'll work out fine.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Basically what they.
Kristen Pacheco:So they negotiate the terms.
Kristen Pacheco:Khan tries to, like, he's like.
Kristen Pacheco:Tries to get Marino.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Like a deal.
Kristen Pacheco:Tries to bring his band.
Kristen Pacheco:So I think that also helps paint a better picture of, like, who he is.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Khan's always.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:A little bit more.
Megan Murphy:More connected.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Compassionate.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Plus, I love it.
Megan Murphy:So the most important part about what they're agreeing to is they have to work together.
Megan Murphy:But not just that.
Megan Murphy:There.
Megan Murphy:There's a story of them.
Megan Murphy:They are now to play twins whose father was a pop idol.
Megan Murphy:And it's important for the story.
Megan Murphy:Like, like, that's what, that's what he says.
Megan Murphy:Like, you have to be these characters.
Megan Murphy:You will be long lost brothers brought together.
Megan Murphy:That's what we're gonna sell.
Megan Murphy:That's who the Stardust brothers are.
Megan Murphy:And it's just made up.
Megan Murphy:It's just a made up story, y'all.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Made up.
Megan Murphy:It's just.
Megan Murphy:It's just fantasy.
Kristen Pacheco:Fantasy.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:It's not real, this one.
Megan Murphy:Not real.
Megan Murphy:No, it's not.
Megan Murphy:Desperate attempt at atonement by somebody.
Megan Murphy:Not at all.
Megan Murphy:Okay.
Megan Murphy:And they go right into that montage of, okay, perfect.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Because then I think things get fuzzy for me in the order with which they occur.
Kristen Pacheco:But I was laughing because I'm like, okay.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, it's your typical montage.
Kristen Pacheco:Until it's not.
Kristen Pacheco:Then they literally have them acting like dogs.
Megan Murphy:Like they're just carrying them.
Megan Murphy:They're circus animals at one point.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Jumping through hoops.
Megan Murphy:They have them.
Kristen Pacheco:One of them is barking, like, on his hands and knees.
Kristen Pacheco:I just.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, oh, yeah, I believe they're told you will be stars in a week.
Megan Murphy:And this company is not joking.
Megan Murphy:And the movie is not being subtle about manufacturing.
Megan Murphy:These are.
Megan Murphy:They are being manufactured.
Megan Murphy:They have no voice in this montage.
Megan Murphy:They are just put through one room, another room.
Megan Murphy:Photos are taken.
Megan Murphy:They're trained.
Megan Murphy:They're told, this is the music you're playing.
Megan Murphy:You know, they're just slotted in.
Megan Murphy:And that's the price of this fame, is we're making you.
Megan Murphy:But ramos there, and she's like, she's like, I've been doing, like, fan stuff for seven years, and she is there.
Megan Murphy:She knows the power of fans, and she's, like, handing out flyers and getting all the youth.
Megan Murphy:I love her because she's like, okay, well, I guess if I'm doing this.
Megan Murphy:I'm doing this.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Matt Austin:Strongest team in the game for Maremo.
Matt Austin:Like, she's out there throwing the flyers out.
Kristen Pacheco:She gets a gear made.
Kristen Pacheco:She's got, like, the shirt.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:With that bonus.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Serious business.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And I would appreciate.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:They established about her characters she's not doing this because she thinks this is the road to her singing.
Megan Murphy:She would like to, but they say several times, like, oh, no.
Megan Murphy:Like, I'm taking this seriously.
Megan Murphy:I will be your number one fan.
Megan Murphy:I'd like to sing, but I'm not sure if I can sing and like it, you know, as we go later on, it takes a surprise, like an accidental moment to get her to.
Kristen Pacheco:To.
Megan Murphy:To happen, you know, to get her to sing.
Megan Murphy:So I think they established that she's the character right now who loves the music.
Megan Murphy:For the music, you know, which you need that, uh, that, uh.
Megan Murphy:To compare to everybody else at this point.
Matt Austin:Right.
Matt Austin:You need that.
Matt Austin:That baseline.
Matt Austin:That kind of.
Matt Austin:This is the purest form of fandom is that you're in it for.
Matt Austin:For the music and also for, uh, shingo and Khan as people.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:She genuinely cares.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Matt Austin:You need that baseline.
Matt Austin:And then it all goes sideways, of.
Megan Murphy:Course, because I think, like, because it's the system.
Matt Austin:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:So is it.
Kristen Pacheco:They get super famous at this point.
Megan Murphy:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:And then given into that hedonistic lifestyle.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Big time, big time.
Kristen Pacheco:And then is this where the nightmare fuel comes in?
Megan Murphy:I think a little bit, because we see that can is buying into a little bit, but not as heavy as Shingo, who, because of his self esteem issue.
Megan Murphy:And he starts seeing that, oh, I think Maria might like my can better.
Megan Murphy:So that's eating Adam.
Megan Murphy:So then he goes like that next level hedonism.
Megan Murphy:He sees that, like, woman who I'm trying to figure out is if she's real, because I'm trying to figure out if she has visual manifestation of him going, well, I guess I have to be this mess now.
Kristen Pacheco:The american woman, stay away from me.
Megan Murphy:Right?
Megan Murphy:Because she never talks and nobody else seems to interact with her.
Matt Austin:And honestly, she looked like Priscilla Presley to me.
Matt Austin:So I felt like that was kind of where.
Megan Murphy:Where that was a woman because he.
Matt Austin:Was living that whole.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Elvis fantasy where he's in, like, the.
Matt Austin:The hotel suites and, you know, even those terrible little cigars he's smoking.
Matt Austin:Those were the Elvis cigars.
Matt Austin:Like, that was the whole.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:I like how there's both full booze bottles and those tiny little travel ones and a couple fake marble busts and, like, a leopard print skin like rug, the whole deal.
Megan Murphy:It was hedonism in a room.
Matt Austin:It was, yeah.
Matt Austin:The absolute perfect, perfect encapsulation of everything you'd think of in a medium sized rock star.
Megan Murphy:And we got shots of, like, during that montage of marimo kind of pulling away a little.
Megan Murphy:She's seeing them be taken by the fame instead, the music.
Megan Murphy:And I'm like, look at her face.
Megan Murphy:She's so sad.
Megan Murphy:She does sad face, so I'm gonna cry looking at her face.
Matt Austin:She's just so disappointed in them.
Megan Murphy:But, yeah, that's when he's.
Megan Murphy:He's in the hedonism room with the american woman, when he's all like, I'm gonna tell you a secret, which is something we need to know later, that his heart is on the right side.
Megan Murphy:Right.
Megan Murphy:He's trying to be I'm special.
Megan Murphy:And he considers that the thing that make it, like, a thing that makes him special.
Megan Murphy:But.
Megan Murphy:But then whatever substances he's been putting in his body all bloom.
Megan Murphy:So when he goes to kiss this woman, who might not be real, her face splits open, and then it's just a brain with a pair of lips, and boom.
Megan Murphy:We are in the, what, maybe the wildest part of this movie.
Kristen Pacheco:Oh, it is.
Matt Austin:To be sure, the wildest part of the movie.
Matt Austin:It's about 20 minutes of just an absolute psychedelic nightmare.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Just like, he's got, like.
Megan Murphy:He gets fans, but they're zombies and they're tear apart.
Megan Murphy:And he's a.
Megan Murphy:He's picturing Remo and Khan, like, as, like, enemies.
Megan Murphy:As terrifying as trying to eat him, as trying to, like, take him apart.
Megan Murphy:We're really seeing inside his head, and it's ugly.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:I don't know.
Megan Murphy:Skin slip was so fucking high during that part.
Kristen Pacheco:Oh, so that part where, like, they literally go into the mouth and then.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God, they built that.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And then it's like, sucker thing, like, pops up out of the throat.
Kristen Pacheco:And I was like, no, it just keeps happening.
Kristen Pacheco:Aliens over the weekend.
Kristen Pacheco:I don't need this.
Megan Murphy:Oh, and then we see that whole animated part where now he's anime for a little bit.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, that part was.
Kristen Pacheco:I like that part.
Kristen Pacheco:It was fun.
Matt Austin:Yeah, the.
Matt Austin:The anime slash aha.
Matt Austin:Take on me.
Matt Austin:Kind of sketchy.
Megan Murphy:It was really.
Matt Austin:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:I mean, I love that part.
Megan Murphy:It's.
Megan Murphy:It is freaky as hell in the best way because you're like, oh, this is, you know, like, oh, I see.
Megan Murphy:They're about to fall apart.
Megan Murphy:This is.
Megan Murphy:This is not sustainable.
Megan Murphy:Fame.
Megan Murphy:Turns out fame probably isn't healthy for him, and yet that's all he's ever wanted.
Kristen Pacheco:Zachary well, you have no support system, right?
Kristen Pacheco:Because, I mean, you have Marimo there, but he still doesn't like, like, him and Khan do not like each other.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, they haven't yet.
Megan Murphy:He's alone with his thoughts, which is the most dangerous thing for Shingo to be.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes, 100%.
Megan Murphy:But what I like is we're seeing the start of their, like, the breakup, which is about to happen.
Megan Murphy:But there's also something else that is going to be a pressure point because, you know, so they're doing a great job of themselves, kind of like falling from the top.
Megan Murphy:But also, you see, that's when the government officials come to meet with the record head and are basically like, hey, hey, are the government, like, you know, we know how powerful pop culture and music is, and we could really use some support for, you know, the support for the prime minister.
Matt Austin:Yes, yes.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:So they're like.
Megan Murphy:And, you know, these guys are a little, like, you know, they're not.
Megan Murphy:We want peace and love, which cracks me up.
Megan Murphy:We want people to think about peace and love, and it just.
Megan Murphy:Hell happens.
Megan Murphy:It's so weird.
Megan Murphy:It's so weird.
Megan Murphy:But, like, the prime minister's son is kind of a musician, and, you know, maybe, perhaps.
Megan Murphy:Perhaps, like, he's what we're looking for.
Megan Murphy:If you want to, like, you know, take him on, you know, with this big briefcase, like, money and power, you know, it's just so weird.
Megan Murphy:It's a coincidence.
Megan Murphy:It's a coincidence that the prime minister has a son who wants to be.
Matt Austin:A musician, wants to be the big pop idol.
Matt Austin:So, yeah, he ends up buying his way in.
Matt Austin:Buying his way in and becoming the most hurt.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Ursa David Bowie in the process.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, is this goes absolutely just David Bowie.
Megan Murphy:Like, aesthetically, it's a.
Megan Murphy:It's great.
Matt Austin:I tried to then wake Duke David Bowie.
Matt Austin:It's terrible.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, I tried to queue up because most of these people were music, like.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, musicians.
Kristen Pacheco:So I tried to queue up.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, most of their songs, and I queued up one of that in one of his, and I was like, no, this is not for me.
Kristen Pacheco:I don't know what it was, but it was not for me.
Megan Murphy:Well, I love the movie.
Megan Murphy:Right before this, they're having that song where it's just like, all three.
Megan Murphy:All three of our main characters kind of frolicking, I guess, enjoying the fame.
Megan Murphy:But the whole song, the lyrics are about once you reach number one, you just go down.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:How you just sing the same song forever?
Megan Murphy:I just.
Megan Murphy:Another one of those.
Megan Murphy:Like, the music's the.
Megan Murphy:The music's poppy, but the lyrics are all like, this is all fake.
Megan Murphy:This is Mary Fair.
Megan Murphy:This is garbage.
Matt Austin:This is.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:So again, like, every song up so far has been like, sounds fun, but it's like, we're miserable.
Megan Murphy:This is unsustainable.
Megan Murphy:This is a bad system.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:So now we're reaching that point of the big concert, and Shingo is out of it because he just.
Matt Austin:Oh, man.
Megan Murphy:Had a drug induced freak out.
Matt Austin:He went through that whole od situation, which turns into a musical number of trying to get him revived.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I kind of like that you.
Kristen Pacheco:Have, like, the more goons.
Kristen Pacheco:The suited goons now.
Matt Austin:Suited goons?
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:The record label executive.
Megan Murphy:And the goons just try to, like, literally shake him, pill him, put him together to just don't push them.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:The bucket of water on him.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Kristen Pacheco:The drugs that he has there.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:They're just that classic.
Megan Murphy:Like, you just gotta go on stage.
Megan Murphy:And I like how we see a little of Khan where he's like, oh, you know, he's talking to Marie Mo, and he's all like, I don't need him.
Megan Murphy:Right.
Megan Murphy:But even though he's susceptible to that too, we later see he's like, I can't go on without him.
Megan Murphy:Like, again, you see that he.
Megan Murphy:He isn't as tied to the fame thing, but, like, it gets him a little sometimes.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:You know, but, like, they're at the point where he's like, I.
Megan Murphy:He's not here.
Megan Murphy:I can't.
Megan Murphy:I can't go on without him.
Megan Murphy:So then he's like, marie Mo, you have to go on.
Megan Murphy:This is her phoenix moment.
Megan Murphy:This is her phoenix moment from family of the paradise, where.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Megan Murphy:Oh, crap.
Megan Murphy:You go out there, and it's because Kalik does believe in her and want.
Megan Murphy:You know, he wants that for her.
Megan Murphy:And then she goes out, and it's the first, I think, song that actually means something, that it, like.
Megan Murphy:It's the first, like, song from the heart that we've had in this entire musical.
Megan Murphy:Cause it's.
Megan Murphy:She cares.
Megan Murphy:It's a nice love song about, like, you know, if you open the door and my heart will be together, like, know me, you know?
Megan Murphy:And I was like, there we go.
Megan Murphy:So she's, like, the true music.
Megan Murphy:If we're talking about, like, authenticity.
Megan Murphy:She's doing it for the love.
Megan Murphy:She's doing that to help them out on the stage.
Megan Murphy:And this is a song that she's had because she's just, you know, she's my remo.
Megan Murphy:She's the authentic one of this film.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:And it's like a sweet, like, kind of star moment.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It's beautiful.
Matt Austin:And it really is that Phoenix moment because she sings it and absolutely connects with the audience in a way that you haven't really seen.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:It's a real reaction.
Matt Austin:There's real reaction.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:The idol reaction that you got from the stardust.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:I really like how that moment hits.
Megan Murphy:And I love.
Megan Murphy:I love how I love catch.
Megan Murphy:Trying to stop Shingo, who showed up at this point, drugged out of his mind from, like, climbing onto the stage.
Megan Murphy:He's like, no.
Megan Murphy:And.
Megan Murphy:And shingle punches Ken out.
Matt Austin:Knocks him out.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Clocks him in the.
Kristen Pacheco:In the staircase.
Matt Austin:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Knocks him out the stairwell.
Matt Austin:Going to the stage.
Megan Murphy:Cause shingles.
Megan Murphy:Like, it's my moment to shine, baby.
Megan Murphy:I'll do a new number.
Matt Austin:Staggers past maremo in the.
Matt Austin:At the wings of.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Just crushed it.
Matt Austin:Destroyed.
Matt Austin:And then crawls out on the stage.
Megan Murphy:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Sees the woman no one else sees who's encouraging him to.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, you should do.
Megan Murphy:Do your new number.
Megan Murphy:He can tell this, like, this, like, song about, like, it's like.
Megan Murphy:It's like no love and there's no connection.
Megan Murphy:And things a lot as he starts to strip on to the point of just mooning the audience.
Kristen Pacheco:He.
Kristen Pacheco:Which is interesting because it mirrors a little bit the first performance because he, like, rips the shirt off.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:First meet him.
Kristen Pacheco:But, yeah, I was like, he's not.
Kristen Pacheco:He's not gonna take his pants off, is he?
Kristen Pacheco:And then he's like, no, no.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:This is a full breakdown.
Megan Murphy:And now in public.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Kristen Pacheco:Right after we've heard, oh, they're dangerous.
Megan Murphy:We don't want them out there.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:They really helped.
Megan Murphy:I don't know if they would have hung on longer because.
Megan Murphy:No, we.
Megan Murphy:Knowing what we know now about the record executive and, you know, by this point, they can't.
Megan Murphy:The next shot is that it's in, like, sepia toned.
Megan Murphy:They're, like, on a corner, and they only have one cigarette between them.
Matt Austin:They break.
Matt Austin:It gives him a choice between.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, he gives him the no filter part.
Matt Austin:Filter versus.
Megan Murphy:Notice that.
Megan Murphy:Notice that.
Megan Murphy:Here you go, buddy.
Megan Murphy:You deserve this.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It definitely tells you the kind of person Khan is that he gave away the no filter piece to the other guy.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Here you go.
Matt Austin:Here's more for you.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:You know what?
Megan Murphy:You need it, buddy.
Megan Murphy:It still won't be enough.
Matt Austin:Khan's still selfless in this moment.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And then we see the rise of.
Megan Murphy:It's Karu.
Megan Murphy:Yes.
Megan Murphy:Our David Bowie.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Here's the worst part.
Megan Murphy:I love peacemark baby as a song, and I love.
Megan Murphy:It's great.
Megan Murphy:It's a bob.
Megan Murphy:And I just love that they said, like, oh, hey, I'm all about love.
Megan Murphy:And then instantly, like, oh, no.
Megan Murphy:Turns out he's a maniac.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:I just love that.
Megan Murphy:I just love that.
Megan Murphy:Like, that back into, oh, it's all about peace and love.
Megan Murphy:And, of course, showing the.
Megan Murphy:This is with the government, and this is him, and this is.
Megan Murphy:It's all bullshit.
Kristen Pacheco:And just what is he smoking a cigar and he's drinking.
Kristen Pacheco:Is that the part where he's doing that?
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And then, yeah, he's, like, roughing up the handler.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:He's showing his true color.
Megan Murphy:His true colors.
Megan Murphy:And then, like, one of the people who working on sets, like, hey, hey, I'm gonna go.
Megan Murphy:And he's like, oh, hey, I can't wait to work with you again.
Megan Murphy:I love you, buddy.
Megan Murphy:Door closes he's roughing the dude up again.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, give me that cigar back.
Matt Austin:He pops the cigar's mouth so nobody sees him.
Megan Murphy:And they're kind of, I think, establishing again that, like, he and Maremo, who's now got some fame, they are.
Megan Murphy:They are teen idols.
Megan Murphy:They are kind of four teens.
Megan Murphy:So they have to be clean.
Megan Murphy:They have to be like.
Megan Murphy:They have.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:As clean and chaste as possible.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Another, like, false thing in this, like, manufacturing factory is like, okay, you're this kind of person, and that's it.
Megan Murphy:And that's what you're gonna be.
Megan Murphy:He doesn't like it because, again, I.
Megan Murphy:Total psychopath.
Megan Murphy:He's like, I need a woman.
Megan Murphy:And then he's like, he wants to create a scandal.
Kristen Pacheco:I don't understand specifically what the scandal is.
Kristen Pacheco:That they're dating each other, basically.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:He's trying to subvert.
Megan Murphy:Like, that.
Megan Murphy:You don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend situation.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:By going, it'd be scandalous if they were dating because they're supposed to just be for the fans.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And his popularity plateaued and he wanted to be more famous.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Kind of the driving factor there.
Megan Murphy:This is the entire reason.
Megan Murphy:Not that he's not famous.
Megan Murphy:He just thinks he can get more.
Matt Austin:Famous because Maremo at that point, was more popular than he was.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Trying to knock her off with the handler so he could get ahead.
Matt Austin:Because if she's got a boyfriend, then she's not chased.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:We lose our fan.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:So evil.
Megan Murphy:So they had been.
Kristen Pacheco:They had been surveilling them.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:Because we see.
Kristen Pacheco:We kind of skipped over that part because they're all.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I.
Kristen Pacheco:When Khan and Shingo are having their moment, they're sitting on the stoop.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:And it's her stoop.
Megan Murphy:I love fashion.
Megan Murphy:What are you guys doing here?
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And they actually.
Kristen Pacheco:This is when they become friends and have their heart, literally.
Megan Murphy:And they're like, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And they're like, we're gonna start anew.
Megan Murphy:We're gonna do this the right way.
Megan Murphy:Yes.
Kristen Pacheco:And she's like, I'm cheering you on.
Kristen Pacheco:Let's do it together.
Kristen Pacheco:And I was like, yes.
Megan Murphy:But then there's a camera, and you're like, where is this camera?
Megan Murphy:They can surveil you from everywhere because we see that they are being watched, but they're just.
Megan Murphy:They're outside on a stoop.
Megan Murphy:There's too much power.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Oh, my God.
Megan Murphy:Exactly.
Megan Murphy: Except for: Megan Murphy:Yeah, but I like that because it doesn't have to make sense.
Megan Murphy:It's just supposed to be because we have this combination of, like, capitalism and the government and all of this, like, oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:They can watch you wherever you are.
Megan Murphy:There's probably a pigeon with a camera in their eye.
Matt Austin:Exactly.
Megan Murphy:That's the answer in my head.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Megan Murphy:Oh, wait, we almost skipped a part.
Megan Murphy:I like, just visually, because you have that, like, Shingo and Khan have been, like, doing smaller clubs and they do that club that, where it is raining the entire time.
Megan Murphy:And everyone who's at the club has an umbrella.
Megan Murphy:Except the bad.
Megan Murphy:It's everything.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And they're singing about issues, about gasoline raining from the sky.
Megan Murphy:And I was like, yeah.
Megan Murphy:They're like, getting back in touch with, like.
Megan Murphy:Like, it feels like they're actually doing a song that matters.
Megan Murphy:Yep.
Megan Murphy:And like, the crappiest club, though, here's the thing.
Megan Murphy:I would totally go to that rain club.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:You got a little umbrella.
Megan Murphy:All the.
Megan Murphy:All the waiters have the umbrellas with the drinks.
Megan Murphy:It's amazing.
Megan Murphy:I'd be afraid of, like, apparently it is electric equipment on stage, but that doesn't seem to be an issue, so.
Matt Austin:Which is surprising, because if anybody remembers Tom York on that MTV spring break where he almost killed himself when it was raining outside the pool there.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Well, that.
Megan Murphy:Cuz.
Megan Murphy:Cuz this is a movie, Tom.
Megan Murphy:That was real life, buddy.
Megan Murphy:I love that part.
Megan Murphy:It's showing that they are starting to do that.
Megan Murphy:That work.
Megan Murphy:Kind of trying to maybe find their actual voice in fact, the interesting thing is Shingo isn't singing at all.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And he always sees himself as the lead singer and he let can do it, which I thought was a really nice sign too.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Like, look at them, they're, they're maturing.
Megan Murphy:Look at them.
Megan Murphy:Look at our boys go.
Megan Murphy:Yep.
Megan Murphy:And then the interview.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Kristen Pacheco:I was getting worried.
Kristen Pacheco:They had me sweat.
Megan Murphy:I was like, oh, don't hurt my girl.
Megan Murphy:Like, yeah, cuz that, because that, because that, that lackey sets up like, okay, I guess I gotta help, uh, set this like, uh, gossip thing up.
Megan Murphy:And he sets Maria off like it's an interview.
Kristen Pacheco:The only other thing we forgot, too is when he's smoking and drinking, he like, has a seizure.
Matt Austin:He has that weird seizure.
Megan Murphy:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And they say like, oh, don't do that.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, don't give into excess or whatever.
Kristen Pacheco:Stop drinking.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And then because it ends up being a thing the next.
Kristen Pacheco:During the interview.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Because it's not an interview.
Megan Murphy:She goes into the room and, and there's fake David Bowie on the bed, being a drink, being a sleazeball.
Megan Murphy:He's all in like black, you know, like his hair is just getting wilder.
Megan Murphy:In fact, he starts looking like some sort of weird warlock vampire as it goes on.
Matt Austin:Nosferatu vibes.
Matt Austin:Yeah, like the Klaus Kinski Nosferatu pops up.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:It's because when he's having, and I might have to go back when he's having the seizure the day before, his face turns whiter.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:And then when he's back up, it goes back to normal.
Kristen Pacheco:And so that's probably the him turning.
Kristen Pacheco:I was like, oh, he's an addict.
Kristen Pacheco:So that's what you're showing.
Megan Murphy:Or maybe also a vampire.
Megan Murphy:Who knows?
Megan Murphy:Yeah, pork Nolos does.
Megan Murphy:Yes.
Megan Murphy:So you're like, oh, no, he's gonna do something to.
Megan Murphy:We're very concerned.
Megan Murphy:Look at.
Megan Murphy:I love her.
Megan Murphy:She pulls the sheet when he's up on the bed, knocks him on his ass and then takes off.
Megan Murphy:And that's only the first time we see her with her special power, which, when she's falling down some stairs, she turns into a ball.
Megan Murphy:Like a literal ball.
Matt Austin:Did everybody else go, wait, what?
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:I was like, the colonel powers have come back.
Megan Murphy:I was so concerned for her.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, oh, good, she's escaping.
Megan Murphy:Wait, what?
Kristen Pacheco:I went back and want, like, I rewound it.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And that's when, uh, because Shingo and Khan are looking for her.
Megan Murphy:In fact, they, uh, they, they encountered the goons at the record.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And got it out of them.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:They kind of like.
Megan Murphy:Again.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Like, where is she?
Megan Murphy:So he told them.
Megan Murphy:So they're there and they're like, they're gonna rescue her.
Megan Murphy:So that's the start of a very long, I think, three song car chase.
Kristen Pacheco:But we get them on foot first.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:And then they get in the car chase.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Cuz he don't say no to fake David Bowie.
Megan Murphy:And he's got a car full of goons and they're all just the same style.
Megan Murphy:And he's in full, like, at this point, his hair is wild, his face is gaunt, dead, like, you know, has, like, the dark makeup under his cheeks.
Megan Murphy:He's got, like a black cloak.
Matt Austin:He looks insane at this point.
Matt Austin:Just completely silent movie villain.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:But our three protagonists are together again.
Megan Murphy:And they're like, nuh uh.
Megan Murphy:This is gonna happen.
Megan Murphy:Not on our watch.
Kristen Pacheco:And they're having fun in the car chase, don't they?
Kristen Pacheco:You think they get away and they're, like, waving bye bye and they're like, playing cards.
Kristen Pacheco:There's a part where she's playing cards.
Kristen Pacheco:I think with Shingo, it's like, what is happening?
Megan Murphy:It reminded me of a young ones episode.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Megan Murphy:It had a very much wacky, like, we're running away, but also silly stuff's happening.
Megan Murphy:And of course, we finally get them.
Megan Murphy:Like, when they're hiding in the store window with the bridal stuff.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:We're mannequins.
Megan Murphy:I know we're not.
Megan Murphy:We escaped.
Megan Murphy:But then you also, I guess, thematically, these three people, because you have two brides and a groom, or at least two suits in a dressed.
Megan Murphy:And they are in those for, like, a good chunk of the end where you're like, these three are together in some sort of relationship that they probably can never figure out.
Megan Murphy:But they are a unit.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Megan Murphy:I like that.
Megan Murphy:Like, they are a unit.
Megan Murphy:You know, whatever's going on is going on.
Megan Murphy:And then, oh, then my favorite song, crazy game comes on, which is one of my favorite ones.
Megan Murphy:But that's when they get in the car and they push that button.
Matt Austin:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And at the same time is when the record executive is being brought in by the government people to the office of the prime minister, whose chair is turned around, his chairs turned around.
Megan Murphy:This is very important.
Megan Murphy:You don't see him right now.
Megan Murphy:And they're basically like, listen, this is working great.
Megan Murphy:Would you like to be almost like a part of the government?
Megan Murphy:Another arm of the government?
Megan Murphy:They're basically offering him money and power to produce the music that they need him to.
Megan Murphy:Cuz, you know, oh, God.
Megan Murphy:Governments are kind of icky, right?
Megan Murphy:Who?
Megan Murphy:Who would do that?
Megan Murphy:Who, who would do that?
Megan Murphy:And then the chair turns around.
Megan Murphy:There's none of us.
Megan Murphy:And we're all like, who's gonna say it?
Megan Murphy:Would you like to know who?
Megan Murphy:The prime minister in this movie.
Megan Murphy:Oh, it's a melted Hitler.
Megan Murphy:It is a terrifying latex Max mask.
Megan Murphy:I don't think it's supposed to be a mask.
Megan Murphy:It's supposed to be his face.
Megan Murphy:Hey, everybody, Hitler's back.
Megan Murphy:And he.
Megan Murphy:And he's in the music production now.
Matt Austin:Tracks, though.
Megan Murphy:It's at that point I feel like, you know, our music executives, like, oh, wait a second.
Megan Murphy:Like, you see a little bit like, uh oh, this might have gone too far.
Megan Murphy:And just at that moment.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And at that moment, apparently hitting the button in that car opens up a portal into this very office under the desk.
Megan Murphy:Because all of a sudden, out pops Shingo and Kaidenhe.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And Maremo.
Megan Murphy:And then everybody else that was in the other car and career.
Megan Murphy:Everybody.
Megan Murphy:Everybody's in this room now.
Megan Murphy:And then a crew looks goes, dad.
Megan Murphy:Yes, yes.
Megan Murphy:Our fake David Bowie's dad is Hitler.
Matt Austin:This is important knowledge, which everything now tracks.
Matt Austin:Everything makes sense now.
Megan Murphy:And now this room is full of people.
Megan Murphy:I do not know where some of these people.
Megan Murphy:There were clowns in there.
Megan Murphy:There are dancers in there.
Megan Murphy:And there's a musical number going on.
Megan Murphy:And it's chaos.
Megan Murphy:It's chaos in there.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Megan Murphy:But of course, Karu is angry because this has not happened the way he wanted to.
Megan Murphy:And he has a gun.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And he's gonna shoot somebody.
Megan Murphy:And you're like, oh, no, it's Shingo in his full bridal dress, in the full bridle.
Megan Murphy:He's gonna take him out.
Megan Murphy:And you hear like a bang.
Megan Murphy:And you have a look on Shingo's face like something horrible happened.
Megan Murphy:And you look back and everyone's going, oh, shot.
Megan Murphy:Oh, shoot.
Megan Murphy:Oh, no.
Megan Murphy:And they look again.
Megan Murphy:And there's the record executive in front of Shanga with his all white suit with a spot of blood on the right hand side of his chest.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes, he should be fine.
Kristen Pacheco:He was shot on the right side.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, he's down.
Megan Murphy:And Rainbow's like, he's on the right.
Megan Murphy:It'll be fine.
Megan Murphy:And then that look comes over his face.
Megan Murphy:And then you get a look on because, oh, we forgot that Ken was like, oh, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Cause he was talking to Shingo.
Megan Murphy:He's like, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And we both have our hearts on the right side.
Megan Murphy:It's not that weird.
Kristen Pacheco:I.
Megan Murphy:So then you start getting that.
Megan Murphy:Wait a second.
Megan Murphy:They were both abandoned and they all have their heart on their side.
Megan Murphy:And then.
Megan Murphy:And then.
Megan Murphy:Okay, this might be my favorite part of this film is our record executive gets up and as he is dying and his suit is becoming more and more read, he sings a ballad about how he used to be a pop idol and he loved unfairly and had to abandon his two twin sons.
Matt Austin:What a twist.
Megan Murphy:What?
Megan Murphy:And then he's like, in this atonement as he's ascending white stairs with dancers on the side, literally, like, going to heaven in a way.
Megan Murphy:And it's just.
Megan Murphy:It's just valid.
Megan Murphy:It's just like sad ballad, but it's a power ballad, and he's singing the hell out of it.
Megan Murphy:And now the Stardust brothers, they really are brothers and they know it.
Megan Murphy:And he drops dead.
Megan Murphy:It's the best moment of the film.
Megan Murphy:I'm a.
Megan Murphy:I love it every time.
Megan Murphy:Like, this is the best part of this film.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:The entire time.
Kristen Pacheco:And.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Oh, and the best.
Megan Murphy:He takes off his glasses so now we can see his eyes, we can see his soul.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It's beautiful.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:He loves his sons more than money or power.
Megan Murphy:It turns out he just wanted them to be able to taste what he tastes, have the success.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Then dead.
Matt Austin:And that was it.
Megan Murphy:Then it goes right back to, like, right back to the.
Megan Murphy:The stage show that the Stardust brothers are doing at the weird black and white club.
Matt Austin:Yep.
Kristen Pacheco:Because they say this is weird right there.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Cuz they're like.
Megan Murphy:So there's.
Megan Murphy:There's no resolution.
Megan Murphy:And then they say as if almost to write their own story because they're still interested in being stars, which is super interesting to me because they've gone through this whole thing and they literally, I forget which one says it, like, well, maybe Karoo is still angry at us and seeking revenge.
Megan Murphy:And I don't know if that was true before they said it because it feels like they're trying to write a legend.
Matt Austin:Mm hmm.
Megan Murphy:Right.
Megan Murphy:Because then.
Megan Murphy:And then.
Megan Murphy:Because then after that, all of a sudden can't get shot.
Megan Murphy:And he falls back and shingle thinks it's a joke, but it's not.
Megan Murphy:And then he stands up and he gets shot.
Kristen Pacheco:And then they.
Megan Murphy:It's almost like they're trying to make.
Kristen Pacheco:Legs of each other.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And you see that he has a vision of like, uh, Marimo and, uh, Khan driving off together because it's kind of intimated that they got together and he's okay with it now, but he's going.
Megan Murphy:He's walking and shingles.
Megan Murphy:Like, I'll be in the stars.
Megan Murphy:And he's walking off into the stars.
Megan Murphy:Hard cut to their bodies, dead on the stage.
Megan Murphy:And the first time this audience has reacted and they applaud and they react.
Kristen Pacheco:So positively, these two guys are shutting up.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And I was like, there we go.
Megan Murphy:It's almost like they had to make a legend.
Megan Murphy:That's the legend of the Stardust brothers.
Megan Murphy:They had to end it on a legend, which is them getting shot, which is them.
Matt Austin:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Which I think is a statement.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Who knows?
Megan Murphy:Like, I think they put that possibility out there, like, oh, this is a loose end.
Megan Murphy:Maybe this is what happens and people will talk about us forever.
Matt Austin:Yep.
Megan Murphy:Because that fame came back again.
Megan Murphy:They kept saying they were going to do small clubs and do it, but it sounds like the fame bug got them in the end because they didn't have to.
Megan Murphy:They never had to go on that stage and talk about being the Stardust brothers, but they did, you know, they were almost free.
Megan Murphy:And then, yo, it gets you.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:And that is the legend of the Stardust brothers.
Kristen Pacheco:What a wild movie.
Megan Murphy:I love it.
Megan Murphy:I love the aesthetics of it.
Megan Murphy:I love that its subtlety is for cowards, as we mentioned before we started.
Matt Austin:Before we got on.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:We had that conversation about Garth merengue.
Matt Austin:Is that.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Matt Austin:Subtext is for cowards.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:And that is exactly what this movie is.
Matt Austin:If you want to know what maximalism looks like in a film.
Megan Murphy:Yes.
Megan Murphy:But like, low budget maximalism.
Megan Murphy:Like, you can tell that they were doing the best with what they had.
Megan Murphy:And I love it.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:It's very much in that same range of, like, forbidden zone and all those kind of like new wave.
Matt Austin:I'm trying to remember the other one, the Russian.
Matt Austin:It doesn't matter, but it's like a russian new wavy kind of thing.
Matt Austin:And it's got the same vibe to it.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:It's on a show.
Megan Murphy:It has a lot of that energy.
Matt Austin:Yes.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:And then you can really see, I guess a lot for me is I can see the fam of the paradise, like influence.
Megan Murphy:Like, literally that.
Megan Murphy:The musician said that was one of his inspirations.
Megan Murphy:And I'm like, you show these together, it's kind of the same story.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:There's a definite through line between them, for sure.
Megan Murphy:Stardust brothers are Winslow Leech together, two for one.
Megan Murphy:But like, that same idea of, like, you know, fame.
Megan Murphy:Fame will bite you.
Megan Murphy:You think you want it, you know?
Megan Murphy:But if you're.
Megan Murphy:If, you know, your whole idea is, like, fame and not music and not creating something but being a thing, and then you let somebody else create the thing, you're gonna be.
Megan Murphy:There's.
Megan Murphy:There's not a happy ending there.
Megan Murphy:People are like, it'll be what the audience wants.
Megan Murphy:And sometimes what the audience wants is you shot dead.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:And that's the echo with.
Matt Austin:With the last episode with.
Matt Austin:With head.
Matt Austin:They couldn't get out of that.
Matt Austin:That same.
Matt Austin:They're just toys on a shelf to be used for something else another time.
Matt Austin:So there's.
Matt Austin:Those are your options.
Matt Austin:You're just.
Megan Murphy:They're in a monkey box being put back in by Victor mature.
Matt Austin:Exactly.
Matt Austin:You're either eternally just being played out like an action figure on a stage, or you're shot dead because you've outlived your usefulness or ordev.
Megan Murphy:You spice girls it, and then, like, everything's okay.
Kristen Pacheco:They have a good wall, and you're like, hey, we had a good time.
Kristen Pacheco:Stop making out in front of the theater, and I'll see you when I see.
Megan Murphy:It's funny how they went with, like, the.
Megan Murphy:Like, listen to Spice.
Megan Murphy:We're not here.
Megan Murphy:We cannot be the people who have the message of it's all fake and it's horrible.
Megan Murphy:We're the Spice Girls, okay?
Megan Murphy:That's not our strength, and that's okay.
Megan Murphy:I needed them to be like, you know, sometimes it's okay.
Megan Murphy:And then you break up and then you marry rich, and then.
Megan Murphy:It's fine.
Megan Murphy:It's fine.
Megan Murphy:It's fine.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:The Spice Girls method of, you know, we're not here for a long time.
Matt Austin:We're just here for a good time, and then we'll punch out.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, maybe that's partly it.
Megan Murphy:They're like, we did our thing and then we were done.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:We're not trying to.
Kristen Pacheco: For: Megan Murphy:See each other every once in a while.
Megan Murphy:It's fine.
Megan Murphy:One of us is so rich, she needs none of us ever again.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Oh.
Megan Murphy:So that kind of stops that.
Matt Austin:That's the end of it and.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:For.
Matt Austin:For starters, brothers and the monkeys, it was.
Matt Austin:We're gonna do this forever.
Matt Austin:If it's state fairs or if it's, you know, it's.
Matt Austin:It's, you know, small clubs.
Matt Austin:Until we die.
Megan Murphy:Did we get more depressing as we went through these.
Megan Murphy:These movies?
Megan Murphy:Did we end on the one with the most depressing ending?
Matt Austin:I don't.
Kristen Pacheco:I think the last to have.
Matt Austin:I think it's arguable.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:I think it's arguable.
Matt Austin:Because what's.
Matt Austin:What's.
Matt Austin:I.
Matt Austin:Here's the philosophical question for you.
Matt Austin:What's worse?
Matt Austin:Is it, you know, dying on stage, doing what you're.
Matt Austin:You ostensibly want to be doing?
Matt Austin:Or is it running away from a thing that you don't want to be doing, but forced back into it over and over again for a time?
Megan Murphy:Over and over.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:You sold me on monkeys.
Megan Murphy:Hell, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Well, also, literally, like, if I'm just saying how I feel after the end of each movie, like.
Megan Murphy:Like, I'm kind of sitting quiet after head.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:Going, oh, shit, we're Starbucks Stardust brothers.
Megan Murphy:I'm still listening to the music at the end.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, you know what?
Megan Murphy:That was a fun ride.
Megan Murphy:Marina still out there making her music.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, music is still making it, I think.
Matt Austin:Exactly.
Matt Austin:A KP.
Matt Austin:Go ahead.
Matt Austin:Because that's a really good point to make.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Because she's still out there.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, even then, they're like, oh, she's in her hometown.
Kristen Pacheco:Like, I get the feeling that they're together, but also that, like, she kind of left him maybe because, I mean.
Megan Murphy:She'S not here, she's not with them.
Kristen Pacheco:Right.
Kristen Pacheco:So, you know, remain true to herself and.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:Still then hopefully being happy and successful.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, well, they are still.
Kristen Pacheco:Mike, Megan was saying they still desperately chose fame, and so this is all that they can get.
Kristen Pacheco:And that's depressing.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I keep.
Megan Murphy:God, they're just trying to get some reaction on this audience, and they've already been through this once, and they were.
Kristen Pacheco:Literally, like, when they were in the audience, like, you know, touching them.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Kristen Pacheco:The part where they, like, break into and, like, are trying to shake them to get them to get our reaction out.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:And nothing shameful.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:So good.
Kristen Pacheco:God, I guess.
Megan Murphy:I guess they are more dust than star.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, they bit the dust there at the end.
Megan Murphy:I love this movie.
Matt Austin:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Everything we've said about it, I think we did a good job, but it still doesn't do justice to sitting and watching it because it is such a visual.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Megan Murphy:Feast.
Matt Austin:Feast.
Matt Austin:Thank you.
Matt Austin:It's just such a wild experience to sit and watch how it's actually portrayed on the screen because it really.
Matt Austin:I know I say it a lot on this show.
Matt Austin:We've done, I don't know how many of these.
Matt Austin:And I'm like, you can see every dollar on screen, but this is one of those where it's like, they didn't have a lot of budget, but it is absolutely one of the most, like, surrealist, you know, super poppy, maximalist things for.
Matt Austin:For barely any money.
Matt Austin:And, you know, as you go through and look at the reviews and things like that for this, a lot of people are like, well, it's kind of amateurish.
Matt Austin:The acting's not great, blah, blah blah.
Matt Austin:I'm like, but, yeah, that's kind of the charm of it.
Megan Murphy:At the same time, it's a shaggy film.
Megan Murphy:I'll never say it's like, it's not a clean, efficient story, but it is not trying to be.
Megan Murphy:I think it's being exactly what it wants to be.
Matt Austin:Absolutely.
Matt Austin:Yeah, absolutely.
Matt Austin:So highly recommend.
Matt Austin:Legend of Star Wars Brothers.
Matt Austin:It is available on tubi.
Megan Murphy:It's the answer to everything.
Megan Murphy:It's probably on to be.
Matt Austin:That's more often than not in my house when somebody hears the.
Matt Austin:The tubi chime as you go in that little jingle, that exact thing.
Megan Murphy:Has anyone checked to see if London after midnight might just actually be on Tubi and no one checked?
Matt Austin:It's.
Matt Austin:It very well might be.
Matt Austin:We'll have to check after all.
Megan Murphy:The lost classics are just there.
Matt Austin:Yeah, London after midnight.
Matt Austin:All those doctor who episodes.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Megan Murphy:Just.
Megan Murphy:Oh, shit.
Kristen Pacheco:Hiding in the back there under.
Kristen Pacheco:Their categories are fun.
Kristen Pacheco:I was looking at those yesterday when I was filtering through.
Megan Murphy:They're wild.
Megan Murphy:I'm like, also, part of me feels like, what do you think I watch?
Megan Murphy:Why are you recommending some of this stuff?
Megan Murphy:I'm taking it personal, actually, though.
Megan Murphy:Okay, that is going on my watch list.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, you're like, okay, fine, fine.
Megan Murphy:You got me.
Megan Murphy:You got me.
Matt Austin:But yeah, it's bad getting caught in 4k as you're going through that and you're like, what is this algorithm?
Matt Austin:Why are you wrecking?
Matt Austin:Oh, yeah, no, this is all the stuff I'm gonna watch.
Megan Murphy:I got seen.
Megan Murphy:Real?
Megan Murphy:Like in 4k.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, I got seen.
Matt Austin:Yeah, no, I see why all the serious movies.
Kristen Pacheco:It's more.
Kristen Pacheco:If it's Tubi, it's probably recorded off.
Megan Murphy:Of a vhs tape, dressed.
Matt Austin:And for sure there might be a couple minutes in the middle of it.
Matt Austin:Yeah, it'll flash tracking 45 minutes, the.
Megan Murphy:Camera gets knocked over.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:I love it.
Kristen Pacheco:So much charm.
Megan Murphy:We're gonna enjoy it as long as it is what it is.
Megan Murphy:You know, I'm sure eventually it'll be cleansed and all the edges filed off.
Megan Murphy:But until then, woohoo.
Megan Murphy:Pew pew.
Megan Murphy:Wild west.
Megan Murphy:Tubi.
Matt Austin:Yes, nothing stays gold forever.
Matt Austin:But, yeah, enjoy it, because there's so much good stuff on Tubi that I guess.
Matt Austin:Can we make that our universal recommendation for this.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:There's so much good stuff.
Kristen Pacheco:Cherish.
Megan Murphy:Cherish to be wallet.
Megan Murphy:Cherish.
Megan Murphy:Tubi wall weekend.
Kristen Pacheco:Yes.
Matt Austin:I found a thread on.
Matt Austin:On Twitter earlier today where they just list out where all the old canon movies are screening.
Matt Austin:Three quarters of them are on Tubi.
Matt Austin:So, like, it's such a repository for all the stuff that.
Matt Austin:That you dig around video stores for.
Matt Austin:It's great.
Megan Murphy:Yeah.
Matt Austin:Shout out to Tubi.
Matt Austin:Thank you for.
Matt Austin:For making this job a lot easier.
Kristen Pacheco:So much easier.
Kristen Pacheco:Yep.
Matt Austin:And filling multiple hours when we all have to fold laundry.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah.
Megan Murphy:How much?
Megan Murphy:I think I'll just turn it.
Kristen Pacheco:Yeah, let me just do this over here.
Kristen Pacheco:Don't mind.
Megan Murphy:We did it.
Megan Murphy:Yeah, we did it, guys.
Megan Murphy:We did great.
Matt Austin:We did it.
Matt Austin:Legend of the Stardust brothers.
Matt Austin:There's one more legend to talk about.
Matt Austin:It's the legend of the Anomaly Film Festival.
Matt Austin:It's coming up November 6 through the 10th this year at the little theater in Rochester, New York.
Matt Austin:Anomalyfilmfest.com.
Matt Austin:anomaly film fest on all the socials.
Matt Austin:I think this will come out right before the deadline to submit.
Matt Austin:Check us out on film freeway.
Matt Austin:If you are a filmmaker and you.
Megan Murphy:Want to, uh, it's August 31.
Megan Murphy:That's our last.
Megan Murphy:Last.
Megan Murphy:Last deadline on there.
Matt Austin: ,: Matt Austin:Your sol.
Matt Austin:Unless this is into next year's season.
Matt Austin:Uh, but, uh, yeah, we're.
Matt Austin:We're on film freeway, and we would love to see what you're making.
Matt Austin:Uh, please submit and, uh, we will take a look at it, and maybe you'll make this year's festival.
Matt Austin:It's anomaly filmfest.com ondem.
Matt Austin:Everything that's important.
Matt Austin:We've been the podcast or not.
Matt Austin:You've been amazing.
Matt Austin:Thank you very much for listening, and we will see you again later at the movies.
Matt Austin:I guess we'll steal eberts on that one.
Kristen Pacheco:Presentation of the lunch podcast network.
