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From Denny to Vampires: The Room's Bizarre Legacy
We're diving into the wild world of *The Room*, the 2003 cult classic that’s as legendary as it is bizarre. This flick is foundational for the Anomaly Film Festival, and we’re unpacking all the ridiculousness that makes it a must-see. We’ll chat about everything from Tommy Wiseau’s mysterious vibe to the film’s iconic lines that make you go, “Wait, what?” Join us as we explore how this cinematic trainwreck became a beloved disaster, and trust me, it’s gonna be a ride! Don’t forget to check out the Anomaly Film Festival coming up this November, where we celebrate the flicks that inspired us!
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Speaker A:It's Anomaly Presents with your friends, the podcastronauts.
Speaker A:Sounds like a lot of supernatural baloney to me.
Speaker A:Supernatural, perhaps.
Speaker A:Baloney, perhaps not.
Speaker A:Hello and welcome to Anomaly Presents, the podcast about the genre movies that inspired a genre film festival.
Speaker A:That is the Anomaly Film Festival.
Speaker A:It makes its home in beautiful Rochester, New York.
Speaker A:We are doing it again for.
Speaker A:What is this, the seventh time?
Speaker A:Sixth time.
Speaker C:Seven.
Speaker A:2018.
Speaker A:Lucky number seven.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker C:You don't need to count to put on a film festival.
Speaker C:We swear to God, everybody, this year's lucky seven.
Speaker C:We're all, like, once.
Speaker A:Lucky number 11.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We made it.
Speaker A:We did it.
Speaker C:No, one year barely exists in our head.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:There was one year that was real weird for everybody.
Speaker A:2019, everybody.
Speaker B:I was compiling the list, my wonderful Excel spreadsheet of all of the things we have screened.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that gem.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I forgot about that gem.
Speaker C:God loved and gone.
Speaker C:My brain is my brain.
Speaker B:You fondly, but forgot about you for a hot second while I was doing this.
Speaker B:Or forgot the year with which we had screened it.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:It always kind of lives in the ether as I'm zipping through to be, and I'm like, oh, hey, I've seen that.
Speaker A:Our friend.
Speaker C:Yeah, our friend.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker C:These films are our friends.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, this is the Anomaly Presents podcast, the podcast about the genre movies that inspired the genre film festival.
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Speaker C:We got talk good about them.
Speaker C:They keep letting us come back.
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Speaker A:So, Yep, that.
Speaker A:That is the Anomaly Film Festival.
Speaker A:We are here to talk about the movies that inspired the Anomaly Film Festival.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's kind of marginal.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's just movies we really like, so we just want to talk about them.
Speaker A:This one, I can honestly say, is kind of foundational for Anomaly.
Speaker C:Foundational for, like, personal growth.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's one of the.
Speaker A:The touchstone films that kind of brought about that weird, like, independent auteur situation.
Speaker A:Maybe auteur 20.
Speaker A:What are we saying?
Speaker A:2000 and tens?
Speaker A:Is that where we were?
Speaker A:Somewhere in that ballpark?
Speaker B:2003.
Speaker A:2003.
Speaker C:And then with us longer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker C: eels like it shouldn't be the: Speaker C: I feel like: Speaker C: Every time I see: Speaker A:Yeah, right, Exactly.
Speaker C:Feels older.
Speaker A:It hits.
Speaker C:Ageless.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It hit some weird notoriety out in la and they're like midnight movies.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, there are a bunch of articles written about it.
Speaker A:And then you could buy the DVD from the filmmaker off his website.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:I read one of those articles.
Speaker A:I bought the DVD from Tommy Wiseau off his website.
Speaker C:You know, Living the Life.
Speaker A:You know, came with a nice palm card.
Speaker A:It was very, very cool.
Speaker C:Listen, you walk the walk, not just talk the talk.
Speaker C:Like, I will buy and support this.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We had it.
Speaker A:We had everybody over to watch it, including our.
Speaker A:Our anomal dads, Matt and Adam, which gave way to more screenings like that, including Birdemic.
Speaker A:Later.
Speaker A:Down.
Speaker A:Down the Road.
Speaker C:Amen.
Speaker A:Which led into us joining forces with Magnus and Film Fail.
Speaker A:And that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's where we kind of joined forces with Magnus and.
Speaker A:And Meg and.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So foundational is right.
Speaker A:Foundation.
Speaker A:This is a.
Speaker B:And then you all found out I didn't watch it, and it immediately got bumped to the top.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, we.
Speaker C:This is rescheduled.
Speaker C:That we have a database.
Speaker C:We have a spreadsheet that KP has put together, and we blew it up because Matt and I are like, oh.
Speaker A:No, no, no, wait.
Speaker C:No, no, kp.
Speaker A:We've been doing theology for.
Speaker A:For seven years now.
Speaker A:And you didn't read Genesis?
Speaker A:What the hell?
Speaker A: are, we're talking about the: Speaker A:Also, because this is a movie podcast and you are contractually obligated to talk about the Room do one episode just by virtue of the fact that you're a.
Speaker A:A movie podcast.
Speaker A:So the punches and popcorn episode will probably be out in about six months.
Speaker C:Love you guys.
Speaker C:Shout out.
Speaker B:There technically is a fight scene.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So yeah, a lot of taunting.
Speaker A:We could.
Speaker B:Cheap, cheap.
Speaker C:Speaking of arrested development and not knowing what a bird sounds, no idea what.
Speaker A:A chicken sounds like.
Speaker B:Has anyone in this family even seen a chicken?
Speaker C:Perfect.
Speaker C:That energy, except for our rest development, that is on purpose and in the room.
Speaker C:It is very lovingly not on purpose.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And, and I don't know, I feel like it's kind of, I don't know, almost beating a dead horse to go into the background of the room.
Speaker A:Because there's been books and movies and, and all that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he goes around and does plenty of interviews and I know he kind of flip flops on things, so it just seems like there's certain core things you will know.
Speaker B:Everything else is just take it for what it is.
Speaker C:So we've answered.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So Matt, you said the first time you saw it, right?
Speaker C:That was buying.
Speaker C:Buying the dvd.
Speaker A:I bought the dvd.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:And then kp, it was because we made you right now.
Speaker B:Yes, about a week and a half ago.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker C:So it's funny because my first like real watching it was through Rift tracks.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:So we've all had three very different experiences.
Speaker C:Like, it became one of my favorite, most relaxing Rift tracks to throw on.
Speaker C:I, the, the, the do do do do like, is relaxing to me because I'm like, I'm just gonna pop this on and like just hang out in my room or like half sleep.
Speaker C:So when I hear like, oh, hi Mark, I'm like, ah, yeah, this is my happy place.
Speaker B:I can rest.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because I'm also safe because I'm not with this movie alone.
Speaker C:There are experts and professionals that are walking me through.
Speaker C:Like, no, that was a very weird thing that just happened.
Speaker C:Don't worry.
Speaker C:Thanks, guys.
Speaker A:I, I feel like we might have done you a disservice.
Speaker A:Kp, you didn't watch this all by yourself, did you?
Speaker C:Oh no.
Speaker C:KP froze.
Speaker C:Oh no.
Speaker A:KP realize the error of her ways and just escapes completely from the stream.
Speaker C:You know, we'll just keep vamping for a bit.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So yeah, it's.
Speaker A:It's an interesting thing when you run into those movies like that though, because it's.
Speaker A:You do need kind of a crowd to, to watch it either in your living room or, or, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Basically I was alone.
Speaker C:Oh, hello, kp.
Speaker C:I'm Back now.
Speaker C:I'm so sorry.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It was like the question shocked you so much.
Speaker C:Like, I did watch it alone.
Speaker C:You sons of.
Speaker C:And then you just froze.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, I wasn't.
Speaker B:I was gonna make my sweetheart suffer through that.
Speaker C:So I.
Speaker C:Oh, you know what love that was be.
Speaker C:That was beautiful.
Speaker B:She would have been done in the first 10 minutes.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker C:So anyway, I'm gone.
Speaker A:There are very specific checkpoints I can think of in this movie where.
Speaker A:Where she might punch out.
Speaker A:And, yeah, 10 minutes is probably it.
Speaker A:And then if she made it.
Speaker A:Yeah, 40 minutes in, it was funny.
Speaker B:Like, I mean, I have watched plenty of movies that are, I'm sure, inspired by this.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Or feel very like, yeah, I'll make my own passionate.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, We've explored them on this podcast.
Speaker A:Indeed.
Speaker B:And so I was like, yep, this.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is ridiculous.
Speaker B:This is just all ridiculousness.
Speaker B:I mean, this man is being very serious about what he's doing.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, it is.
Speaker B:The way I look at it is.
Speaker B:I was like, it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's definitely not.
Speaker B:It's not Showgirls.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:It's not somebody who, like, it's over the top for a reason or, you know, the acting is the way it is for a reason.
Speaker B:This is a man who tried very hard.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:To make something that meant something to him and is a laughingstock kind of.
Speaker B:I feel a little weird about that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, it's weird because, like, this.
Speaker C:This goes right into, like.
Speaker C:So the reason I like this is.
Speaker C:And, you know, I think folks are, you know, folks who like this kind of film are kind of like, you know, figure out.
Speaker C:What do you call it?
Speaker C:Because it's so bad, it's good.
Speaker C:Sounds almost insulting.
Speaker C:And here's the thing.
Speaker C:You had a good time.
Speaker C:I like talking very specifically about this kind of film.
Speaker C:I like the term ego splitation when it is one person, usually a dude who, you know, let's say they have at least three credits, if not more in the creation.
Speaker C:This is very Neil Breen, but the idea that someone who had a message that they wanted to share and they are very serious about it, they.
Speaker C:These are very serious movies about serious issues.
Speaker C:Bringing up birdemic.
Speaker C:James and Gulian had something to say about the world and ecology and was very serious.
Speaker C:One of my.
Speaker C:My favorites.
Speaker C:Speaking of madness, because we went through several of this gentleman's films during film fail.
Speaker C:Frank d' Angelo.
Speaker A:I was just going to ask you to talk about Frank d' Angelo.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The Canadian businessman who I believe his money was from cheetah energy drink.
Speaker C:And he's used that money to make a series of films where he's like a really cool, somewhat mob related dude.
Speaker C:He's we.
Speaker C:He's driving a motorcycle and they always end up eating in the restaurant this man actually owns.
Speaker C:And he's.
Speaker C:And this is funny because it's interesting the parallels to yo where Tommy also wrote a movie where everyone loves him and they come to him for advice and he's like, this made.
Speaker C:And this is the same thing with d' Angelo.
Speaker C:And it's very interesting to see like, same thing with brain.
Speaker C:You have someone who wrote a story how.
Speaker C:Someone who looks exactly like they are and they're very much them.
Speaker C:Anytime you see any of these filmmakers outside of the film, this is the same person and they're writing a story about how they're really cool and amazing and wise and when bad things happen, it's everybody else's fault and the world's horrible.
Speaker C:Because really, if people just listen to them and let them like, lead, well, the world will be a better place.
Speaker C:So I'm very interested.
Speaker C:Another movie, Champagne and Bullets.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Another where a man stops the movie entirely just to do a Hamlet soliloquy.
Speaker C:Soliloquy.
Speaker C:Because he can.
Speaker C:But also he's pretty sure he's really good at it.
Speaker A:Also, also takes time out to do his big rock ballad.
Speaker C:Oh my God, it's an entire song.
Speaker B:Like he wanted to be a rock star and an actor.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Puts the brakes on the movie for four minutes.
Speaker C:Can say, well, that's.
Speaker B:That's Tommy.
Speaker B:W y.
Speaker B:So with the two sex scenes.
Speaker B:And he thinks he's like debonair.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:He thinks he's like a heartthrob.
Speaker C:And it's exactly all these movies happening.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker C:They reveal.
Speaker C:So like, I almost like what's happening for me.
Speaker C:And part of the reason I enjoy them.
Speaker C:One, they're interesting.
Speaker C:There's a lot of boring movies out there.
Speaker C:These are not mediocre films.
Speaker C:These are special.
Speaker C:And I hold that very dear to me.
Speaker C:And part of what makes them special is you have someone.
Speaker C:And an artist, I'm going to say artist.
Speaker C:Art doesn't have to be good or bad.
Speaker C:It is art.
Speaker C:It is creation and it is very self revealing.
Speaker C:They are revealing more about themselves than they know they are.
Speaker C:Which I think is key to egosploitation.
Speaker C:Like, I know a lot about these guys now.
Speaker C:I know a lot about what makes them tick.
Speaker C:And I think that's what others find very interesting.
Speaker C:Like, I know a lot about Tommy.
Speaker C:I Feel like I know how at least one of his relationships went disastrously.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Very badly.
Speaker B:Reading the Wikipedia and he had written a 540 page novel that.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was.
Speaker B:He became a journal.
Speaker B:Yeah, he had the worst breakup.
Speaker B:Whoever this witch of a woman was just didn't appreciate him.
Speaker B:Woke up one day and just decided to stomp all over his heart.
Speaker B:She's never actually given a reason.
Speaker B:She just wakes up and is like.
Speaker C:Yeah, he bought her an expensive dress and he cheats on her.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:But yeah, no, I think that points to it being very revealing about him because these aren't fully.
Speaker C:Like the characters are not three dimensional.
Speaker C:They're all like the people who hurt me.
Speaker C:The real victim and hero in life.
Speaker A:It's very much the pastiche.
Speaker A:And kp.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a journal.
Speaker A:Some would call it a manifesto.
Speaker A:It's kind of that sort of thing where these are the people that wronged me in very broad stripes and we're just going to go at them and.
Speaker A:And this is how.
Speaker A:How the world looks through my weird.
Speaker B:Yeah, very interesting eyes.
Speaker B:Yeah, he just.
Speaker B:Based on what we do know about him, he seems like the type of guy who just like wants to reinvent himself and wants to be cooler and wants to run away from who he was.
Speaker B:Like, there's very little.
Speaker B:Yeah, there's very little known about his past.
Speaker B:He tried to pass off being French.
Speaker B:Like he changed his name to some sound French as opposed to Polish.
Speaker B:So like there's all these things that are just like, yeah, okay, I'm sorry, I guess whatever happened.
Speaker C:But yeah, yeah, I mean, what was, what was the sitcom he created?
Speaker C:Was it the Neighbors again?
Speaker C:A setup where like, hey, I'm the cool dude.
Speaker C:Everyone in the neighbor, the neighborhood knows and they're all wacky, but I'm there and like he's trying.
Speaker C:Yeah, you can see.
Speaker C:Desperately he's trying to write his own story.
Speaker C:Like this is what he wants his life to be and I gotta give it to him.
Speaker C:I mean, I know who Tommy Wiseau is.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I think of like him going to these screenings that are Rocky Horror esque and you are, you know, you.
Speaker B:It's something so important to yourself.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:That is deep.
Speaker B:And you wrote 540 pages on it.
Speaker B:And my understanding is like the filming of this took a very long time because he wanted to get it right and.
Speaker C:Oh, I have some information on that.
Speaker C:It's fascinating.
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:And then you just go.
Speaker B:And these people are like throwing spoons and laughing at parts that you probably didn't intend to be funny.
Speaker B:And it's that weird dichotomy of being like, I'm famous and people are seeing my work.
Speaker B:And there's something great about that.
Speaker B:And it's being interpreted in a way that I did not intend.
Speaker C:What's interesting, I find with White, like, say, I'm.
Speaker C:Could have been being.
Speaker C:Bring Breen up a lot.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:I think it.
Speaker C:Because that is one place where they do differ is I think, why so in his need to, I think, just be famous.
Speaker C:I don't even think his need is to be an actor or a writer or.
Speaker C:I think it's needed to be famous, perhaps as an artist, but famous.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So that, I think explains his adjustment to going, oh, it's always a comedy.
Speaker C:Oh, it was a dark.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:I think because he needs to tell himself that he can enjoy this, which is great.
Speaker C:Whereas Breen will not allow you to show any of his movies as a midnight movie.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He is not down with anyone enjoying this in any way, but how he presents it, and that's just super.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That is interesting.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I think that just probably speaks a bit to their differences, but also that ego.
Speaker C:Either way, can you.
Speaker C:Can you turn the world so it fits your ego, or do you try to force the world to.
Speaker C:It fits your ego, you know.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:With Breen, I saw somebody compare him just recently to George Lucas.
Speaker A:Like, in his mind, he thinks he's George Lucas, which is why the films have kind of evolved the way they have.
Speaker A:So now he's everything on green screen.
Speaker A:Because he can control.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's all controlled.
Speaker A:It's all.
Speaker A:It's his own little diorama, almost.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which is interesting because why.
Speaker C:So hasn't really like the Room was his, like, masterpiece.
Speaker C:That was this thing he had to get out in the world.
Speaker C:And it's almost like everything after was just to keep the fame.
Speaker C:Like a weird selling underwear.
Speaker C:I feel like, again, that's more interesting to him is I'm Tommy Wiseau.
Speaker C:Whereas Breen's like, I will continue to make movies for I'm an artist.
Speaker C:I love both of these situations quite a bit because it speaks to what's important in each of their lives and.
Speaker B:Also keep them busy because I'm seeing inside their souls.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:I don't want that you stay busy doing other stuff.
Speaker C:Please.
Speaker A:What would be happening in this world if Tommy Wiseau was left as to different devices than what he's at?
Speaker A:He did just make A movie recently, didn't he?
Speaker A:Where it was like a shark attack movie like a year or two ago.
Speaker C:Oh, he might.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I want to say it ran as a double feature at the north park in Buffalo.
Speaker A:They ran that and then the room.
Speaker C:That's very specific.
Speaker C:So I bet that's true.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's a very specific thing to think.
Speaker A:It feels recent to me.
Speaker A:That's the only reason.
Speaker A:Because I was like, oh, Tommy Wiseau is there.
Speaker A:He was also there at Christmas time showing the room.
Speaker B:IMDb picture.
Speaker B:Scary.
Speaker B:Okay, sorry.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's called Big Shark.
Speaker C:I feel like why so has become a little more self aware.
Speaker C:I mean, again, it's about fame, I think, for him, as opposed to art.
Speaker C:So he's leaning into, well, why will people invite me?
Speaker C:It might not be why I made my thing, but people invite and talk to me.
Speaker C:That's what he likes.
Speaker A:It's a thing.
Speaker A:This is gonna sound weird, but it's a thing I kind of got to watch firsthand because it was breaking right when we were at Comic Con in San Diego, like every year for six years.
Speaker A:So we saw the evolution of Wiseau because, like, the one year he was there and he was hawking the DVDs, and he was like, there's a very specific era that Tommy Wiseau is from.
Speaker A: And it's: Speaker A:It is corn and Limp Bizkit.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:You're talking aesthetically.
Speaker A:We saw him successive years, and he had the biggest Jinko pants I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker A:And then the black plastic chain, you know, like they use at the amusement parks behind.
Speaker A:Between the stanchions.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:That was his chain wallet.
Speaker C:Amazing.
Speaker C:Amazing.
Speaker A:But in successive years, he started to play the part of celebrity more like there were the first couple of years, it was.
Speaker A:I'm happy to see you.
Speaker A:Like if people caught him.
Speaker A:And then he was trying to be incognito in a way, still dressed as Tommy Wiseau, mind you.
Speaker A:So, like, he's a very distinctive figure in general.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But still trying to play it like he's just walking the aisles like, oh, oh, so.
Speaker C:So don't notice me, but say.
Speaker C:Saying it very loudly.
Speaker C:Oh, no, please leave me alone.
Speaker C:I'm just trying to go about my day.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't look over here.
Speaker A:It's not Tommy Wiseau.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I said don't look over here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Fascinating.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:It was an evolution probably in that.
Speaker A:That three years between that.
Speaker A:The time that article.
Speaker A:It might have been the Vulture article came out.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And whenever There was like a web series he did, like House of something or other.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Where it's like him playing Mortal Kombat.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I didn't want to look these things up because I was like.
Speaker B:I just read about it and was like, yeah, I don't.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I don't want the Internet clogging up whatever else I got going on.
Speaker A:You're getting Google notifications anytime Wiseau is in the area.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm happy you're.
Speaker B:I'm happy you're having a good time and you're busy.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Yeah, keep them busy.
Speaker C:Keep them busy, everybody.
Speaker C:But you know what?
Speaker C:Yeah, good.
Speaker A:I think you're right, Meg.
Speaker A:Like, there it is that where he's there for the fame of it more than he is.
Speaker A:Because that's what he wants.
Speaker A:Is that recognition.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He made.
Speaker C:He remade himself.
Speaker C:Even though people are like, this isn't you.
Speaker C:It is him in that he made himself this.
Speaker C:He's living that.
Speaker C:He 100 is Tommy Wiseau right now.
Speaker C:And what a triumph.
Speaker C:I mean, honestly, for him.
Speaker C:Whatever is like hinted at, like the Disaster Artist book, you know, Greg Cistero and the co writer do a little, like, stuff that Greg could figure out and a little bit of research.
Speaker C:It does not sound like a great past if whatever they could pick up.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:It sounds very much like he would love for that just never existed.
Speaker C:And he.
Speaker C:He did it.
Speaker C:He did it.
Speaker C:He's an oddball, but he reinvented himself like the.
Speaker C:The American dream.
Speaker A:Yes, exactly that.
Speaker A:He really does embody the American dream, which is a wild thing to say.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But you're right.
Speaker A:And he did it by making this movie.
Speaker A:That is just.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Let's dive into it.
Speaker C:Should we talk about the movie?
Speaker A:Let's talk about the.
Speaker C:We're.
Speaker A:We're 20 minutes into the cult of personality for Wiseau, so we can probably.
Speaker C:This is what he would want.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker A:This is an hour long and we spent half of it talking about him.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're doing our part.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The folk hero that is Tommy Wiseau.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this movie.
Speaker B:So it starts.
Speaker A:Movie.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:KP.
Speaker A:It's fresher in your mind.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker B:There's three sex scenes in the first 26 minutes.
Speaker B:And when I was like, I looked at the time and said, what is happening here?
Speaker B: like you said, does not give: Speaker B:Definitely gives 80s 90s.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:That real timeless.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:There is a timelessness too.
Speaker C:Like, I don't know what's going on because an alien made this film.
Speaker A:I Was gonna say because I don't want to room.
Speaker B:And it's just curtains.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:He's wearing a suit.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker B:I'm trying to remember what kind of clothes she wears other than that red dress.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:It's an iconic red dress.
Speaker C:Lisa's red dress.
Speaker C:Iconic.
Speaker A:Lisa is always dressed just as, like, Southern California, late 90s.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:With the.
Speaker B:With the giant French manicures.
Speaker B:That was wild.
Speaker B:How many times we saw that.
Speaker B:I'm like, what is happening here?
Speaker B:She must have just paid good money for that.
Speaker A:Either that or we're going to watch.
Speaker B:It again and again.
Speaker A:It's another peek into Wiseau psyche.
Speaker A:It's one of the two.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's just everything about it.
Speaker A:Meg, you said alien.
Speaker A:And everything about it feels that way because it's shot very much like a sitcom, but translated back and forth from a different language.
Speaker C:Tone is wildly off during certain things.
Speaker C:Again, referred back to the disaster artist.
Speaker C:A couple times they would talk about, like, hey, hey, Tommy.
Speaker C:When.
Speaker C:When we're having dialogue that, like, say, like, Mark is talking about, I used to know this girl.
Speaker C:She was going out with a lot of dudes.
Speaker C:She got beat up so bad, she ended up in a hospital.
Speaker C:And Tommy laughs.
Speaker C:And it goes, oh, Mark.
Speaker C:And they would go, tommy, please don't react that way.
Speaker C:That makes no sense.
Speaker C:And I was like, no, no, that's how.
Speaker C:Like, that stuff, like, it is a why so.
Speaker C:Reaction.
Speaker C:Because it makes no, you know, like.
Speaker C:Or the whole.
Speaker C:The famous.
Speaker C:Like when he goes up to the roof and he slams his water bottle down.
Speaker C:I did not hit her.
Speaker C:I did not.
Speaker C:And initially, oh, hi, Mark.
Speaker C:And like, they were like, tommy, that makes no sense.
Speaker C:You were upset.
Speaker C:And now.
Speaker C:And he's like, no, that's how I'm gonna play it.
Speaker C:So he had a vision.
Speaker C:There are so many, and it's very not human.
Speaker A:The sex scenes, too, are.
Speaker A:Not to sound pervy about it, but, wow.
Speaker C:Even the ones that Denny doesn't show.
Speaker A:Up in, I mean, there's that.
Speaker A:Which is Denny, who is anywhere between, what, 13 and 74 years old.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Just wild.
Speaker C:Because again, another peek into why.
Speaker C:So it's brain.
Speaker C:So he wants to be like, oh, I'm the cool neighbor who takes care of care of this kid, and I look up after him, but he's jealous of my love, of my hot lady.
Speaker C:So he'll just, like, come up when we're about to get busy, and then we just wrestle on the bed and it's fine and not awkward.
Speaker C:And I don't Yell at this guy to leave my house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because again, I.
Speaker A:He reads like he's a high schooler.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I can't get a bead on Denny.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:And that's bizarre.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker A:It's one of the more confounding movies I've.
Speaker A:I've seen.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Or just, you know the stuff where Lisa's mom's like, out of nowhere, like, well, I gotta call back.
Speaker C:It's definitely breast cancer and it never comes back devastating.
Speaker C:That should affect, like, oh, well, then Lisa's under a lot of stress and she's.
Speaker C:Nope.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:This movie is an hour and a half.
Speaker B:Not even.
Speaker B:It's like an hour 20.
Speaker C:And it's dense.
Speaker C:Well, that.
Speaker B:I don't know how many times I, like, after that first 24 minutes.
Speaker B:And then after that, I was like, we're still going, like, hello.
Speaker C:Hello.
Speaker C:It is a short film that feels much longer indeed.
Speaker B:And it's wild because what.
Speaker B:And they, like, run out of time or like, some of the actors weren't available.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker B:So it would have been more like the psychiatrist or something.
Speaker C:Therapist.
Speaker C:That's the best part.
Speaker C:Peter, the guy who plays Peter, the friend and psychologist who there is a scene for.
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He is very clear.
Speaker C:He said, listen, I have obligations after this, so I can't film anymore after this date.
Speaker C:That date came and went.
Speaker C:So all of a sudden an entire new character is introduced.
Speaker C:Well, I say introduced.
Speaker C:Shows up and basically says all of what would been Peter's lines.
Speaker C:And the movie's just like, oh, this other guy.
Speaker C:Yeah, you all know this other guy.
Speaker C:Did we introduce him?
Speaker C:We didn't have time.
Speaker A:From nowhere.
Speaker C:Apparently the cast and a lot.
Speaker C:There's a lot of turnover.
Speaker C:Apparently the crew, at least the legend, is at least four times a complete recap.
Speaker C:You know, a re hiring of the.
Speaker C:The crew.
Speaker C:Greg Sestero was not supposed to be in the film.
Speaker C:He was doing it because he.
Speaker C:He was a friend slash roommate of Tommy.
Speaker C:Yo.
Speaker C:The disaster artist.
Speaker C:The book Wild.
Speaker C:But.
Speaker C:But so he was there just to help his friend Tommy.
Speaker C:And the first person who played Mark was one of the several actors who were recast during it.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And Greg was there.
Speaker C:So Greg Sestero's trajectory of his life, not just his career, his life was changed when he was cast as a Mark.
Speaker C:And it was just because of the general chaos of the filming.
Speaker A:Could you imagine?
Speaker A:Just the proximity, like that was it.
Speaker C:He was there because he needed a.
Speaker C:He met Tommy in an acting class, needed a place to live.
Speaker C:And I was like, sure, I'll help you, weirdo whose apartment I live in sometimes.
Speaker C:And then boom.
Speaker C:Super fascinating.
Speaker C:The fact that.
Speaker C:So Tommy didn't really understand filmmaking, which I think is.
Speaker C:Is fairly clear.
Speaker C:On a technical level, though, he filmed everything in both 35 millimeter and.
Speaker C:And high definition video.
Speaker C:Basically, they built a special thing to film both at the same time.
Speaker C:There is no high definition video in the final cut.
Speaker C:It is just 35 millimeter.
Speaker C:He didn't know that those are just two different formats and you should choose.
Speaker C:So he just spent the money to just record with both at all times.
Speaker A:Which, again, goes towards what we were saying before, where things are sometimes off kilter because they didn't have it quite right.
Speaker A:So things were.
Speaker C:It was like a.
Speaker C:It was a handmade rig.
Speaker C:So both things would be in running.
Speaker B:At the same time.
Speaker B:And then what is.
Speaker B:Sometimes it's, like, fuzzy.
Speaker B:That it's not fuzzy.
Speaker C:There's green screen for no reason.
Speaker C:Like the roof.
Speaker C:Why didn't you just film on the roof?
Speaker B:Literally outside.
Speaker B:They were outside.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:They filming.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:They built the set for that alien.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker C:The famous tuxedo.
Speaker C:Like football.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:They were like, we could film this.
Speaker C:There are alleys.
Speaker C:But he had a vision also.
Speaker C:He didn't know how films were made, but he thought he knows how.
Speaker C:That's the thing with ysl.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He doesn't know how films were made, but he thinks he knows how films are made.
Speaker C:And whatever his thought about it that day was, was how they made the film.
Speaker B:I've had managers like that in the past.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's never.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:You're just trying to survive.
Speaker C:Imagine having that confidence, though.
Speaker C:Like, that's just.
Speaker C:That's the amazing thing to me.
Speaker C:Like, just the confidence.
Speaker C:Now I'm pretty sure I know how to do this.
Speaker A:No, I got this.
Speaker C:I got this.
Speaker A:I got this.
Speaker A:You most certainly do not got this.
Speaker A:But okay.
Speaker B:And everyone's, like, guiding him to be like, hey, this isn't how.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Maybe not.
Speaker B:And he's like, no, no.
Speaker B:I am certain.
Speaker B:This is the way it shall be done.
Speaker C:Certainty.
Speaker C:Yes, kp the certainty with which this film was made is w.
Speaker C:If I.
Speaker A:Had even an eighth of the confidence that Tommy Wiseau had at any given moment.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Unstoppable.
Speaker C:Unstoppable.
Speaker B:Honest to God, they made this movie was 6 million.
Speaker B:Who gave this man $6 million?
Speaker C:That is always a mystery.
Speaker C:People are like, where did this money come from?
Speaker C:There are many stories I will never know.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:It doesn't really matter.
Speaker C:It exists and it's a gift from the universe to everybody else.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Thank you.
Speaker A:Do you think he's made the 6 million back?
Speaker A:@ this point, you gotta figure, right?
Speaker C:I guess it's just.
Speaker C:Okay, so it's the wild mismanagement at the beginning because.
Speaker C:Okay, so besides that.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:The marketing.
Speaker C:So they had that billboard that.
Speaker C:That famous bill for five years.
Speaker C:He paid for that shot of his face, which he called the evil man, which isn't what his character is in the film.
Speaker C:It's just a weird shot of him.
Speaker C:But why so like the image so much that he's like, there on this billboard.
Speaker C:Five years.
Speaker B:A Hollywood billboard is insanely expensive, even accounting for inflation.
Speaker C:So I.
Speaker C:I would love to think he made the money back, but I don't know if y.
Speaker C:So is like, the best with the.
Speaker C:I feel like that he.
Speaker C:He could have 5 cents.
Speaker C:He could have 5 million in his account, and I would believe any in between.
Speaker A:I would figure the Seth Rogan money probably got him over.
Speaker A:Like, that would be my hope.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, at.
Speaker B:At that he's able to recoup and at least be comfortable until.
Speaker B:Who knows what kind of lifestyle this man leaves.
Speaker C:But do you think Tommy's ever comfortable.
Speaker A:Financially or just in his.
Speaker C:No, I, I, you got.
Speaker C:I mean, in his human skit.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:I feel like the question is human because he never seen a human act like that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's total first day on earth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Total Edgar suit moments.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker C:And, and they met in an acting class.
Speaker C:He felt called to acting.
Speaker C:One of my favorite bits of knowledge there because, like, he had a lot of different.
Speaker C:He liked Tennessee Williams plays.
Speaker C:He liked a lot of the, like, big actors.
Speaker C:Like, he loved James Dean.
Speaker C:The fact, you know, the reason that.
Speaker C:You're tearing me apart.
Speaker C:Lisa, line exists is he's just ripping off Rebel Without a Cause.
Speaker C:He just added Lisa at the end.
Speaker A:It feels a lot like Streetcar or like the big Rebel Without a Cause.
Speaker A:Like, I can see where he loved.
Speaker C:Like, yeah, he felt called to that.
Speaker C:And this is what Tennessee Williams is interpreted through the man who calls himself Tommy Wiseau.
Speaker C:It's fascinating.
Speaker A:It really is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker A:Yeah, I can see where it's Tennessee Williams meets Meisner.
Speaker A:Just like that.
Speaker C:Real.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Once I read that, I was looking through it again.
Speaker C:I said, okay.
Speaker C:I mean, they don't.
Speaker C:Things don't make sense.
Speaker C:But I almost maybe see the road he was trying to get on.
Speaker C:He didn't get on that road, like, he took the wrong exit, but I know where he was trying to go.
Speaker A:But now that you mention it, I think if you try to take human logic out of it and just cast it from.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:The emotional impact of it.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker A:It has the exact trajectory.
Speaker A:So he understands which.
Speaker A:To his benefit.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it may just be like just translating back and forth between, you know, what.
Speaker A:Wherever his origin is and Western American movies.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:Because I.
Speaker A:We can probably.
Speaker A:We don't know where he's from, but we can say it's probably not Nebraska right now.
Speaker C:Now I, I would put the little bit of money I have on that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But he didn't come up in that western movie culture.
Speaker C:So American reflection from somewhere, right?
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker B:Eastern Europe is my guess.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I would say general Eastern Europe is probably where we are with.
Speaker A:With it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But I can totally see where.
Speaker A:If you grew up watching that like on TV or at the movies, and that's your reference for American culture.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then you really attach yourself to those like big American movie star icons.
Speaker C:That's what he wanted to be and.
Speaker A:He did it from, from that standpoint.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Super successful.
Speaker A:And I think that's probably why, you know, 22 years later, it's still relevant, is that you can feel that.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The, the, the absolute want and need to be this person.
Speaker C:Not just the character, but the person who made this thing for, you know.
Speaker C:Yes, absolutely.
Speaker C:We're.
Speaker C:It is an act of self creation.
Speaker C:That is so ballsy.
Speaker C:That is so like beyond.
Speaker C:Like most of us would stop and go, that's.
Speaker C:That's embarrassing.
Speaker C:That's cringe.
Speaker C:What am I doing?
Speaker C:But because why.
Speaker C:So either doesn't or cannot have that stop point.
Speaker C:He made the room.
Speaker C:All the good and bad that comes from that.
Speaker A:He made the room.
Speaker A:And then all the reflections of that afterward, which.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:How many of these moves like again, going back to the Disaster Artist, the novel slash movie.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:When are they going to make a d' Angelo big budget mockumentary epic with James Franco playing?
Speaker A:Well, probably not James Franco.
Speaker A:Maybe with d' Angelo.
Speaker A:It could be.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you know what I mean, it's.
Speaker A:It's that level of.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Someone creating a version of themselves that they wish to be true, that they wish to be seen as.
Speaker C:Oh, it's fascinating though quick aside for d' Angelo, which is fascinating because they all have all these ego exploitation directors.
Speaker C:They have their things that make them kind of different.
Speaker C:D' Angelo would get folks like actual actors like he had like Frank Nero.
Speaker C:He had like Margo Kidder, I think Doris Robertson, a couple things.
Speaker C:Who else was it?
Speaker C:Robert Loa.
Speaker A:Here's Robert Loa.
Speaker C:Because here's the thing.
Speaker C:They'd film over the weekend.
Speaker C:He'd pay cash and the catering was good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:He got to hang out with.
Speaker C:Oh God, what's his name from Eddie and the Cruisers, Michael Perret.
Speaker C:He's in a bunch of his films.
Speaker C:So people come back to a d' Angelo film.
Speaker C:I think they know the film they're in, but he pays them and he has.
Speaker C:And, and what, what d' Angelo gets out of it is I get to hang out with these actors and then I get to be like, I'm also one of these actors.
Speaker C:In fact, I'm the star of the thing they're in.
Speaker C:So that's his star story is I'm a cool like Hollywood dude.
Speaker C:I'm hanging out with this dude.
Speaker C:You seen him in TVs and movies, right.
Speaker A:I feel like for D' Angelo, part of it is I'm going to make this movie where I'm the cool dude.
Speaker A:But also at 9 o' clock at night, I'm going to be sitting there with a glass of scotch.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Talking about the Craft with Eric Roberts.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:That's it for him.
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:It's always fascinating for him.
Speaker C:It's the hello.
Speaker C:Because he's got the money and I don't think he has the need.
Speaker C:Why so does to totally convert himself.
Speaker C:He just needs to be like, I'm not just a guy who has like, who created an energy drink.
Speaker C:Also.
Speaker C:I am also an artist.
Speaker A:I, I am an artiste.
Speaker A:I am a TV personality.
Speaker A:Because he did have his interview show for a while.
Speaker A:He had like his late night variety show.
Speaker C:He's another guy that we need to keep in the arts.
Speaker C:Be busy.
Speaker B:Yeah, just be busy.
Speaker C:I need him to stay real busy.
Speaker C:I got a feeling I need him to stay in the arch.
Speaker A:Entertain a person that really just needs to keep in front of a camera.
Speaker A:We should probably do one of his movies at some point.
Speaker A:What was it?
Speaker A:Sicilian Vampire.
Speaker C:I was just about to say the movie that he is a vampire, but about a halfway through the movie he forgets he's a vampire because he's not actually interested in that.
Speaker C:And it kind of becomes another one of his.
Speaker C:He's basically like a mob guy, but you know, one of those cool mob guys who protects the neighborhood and loves his lady and protects her and rides a motorcycle.
Speaker A:That was also the last one we watched together the one with Robert Loa and Margot Kidder.
Speaker A:I really enjoyed.
Speaker A:I thought that was fun.
Speaker A:One.
Speaker C:I gotta check.
Speaker A:I don't remember the name of it.
Speaker A:We watched it together.
Speaker A:We were over at Magnus.
Speaker C:Oh, I.
Speaker C:We watched so many d' Angelo films.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:In all honesty, I'd have to like go.
Speaker C:It was a stretch.
Speaker C:Was that the one where he was kind of the mob guy who was like the coolest dude in the neighborhood or was it the one where he's the mob guy?
Speaker C:This cool student neighborhood.
Speaker C:They both were in a restaurant.
Speaker A:It was the one where he rode the motorcycle.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker C:Which I was like, that was just a tax write off that legit.
Speaker C:I will guarantee you he drives that thing in real life.
Speaker A:That Bugatti is his.
Speaker A:Yes, it is his 100.
Speaker B:Well, I haven't watched any his movies either.
Speaker B:So we'll add it to the list.
Speaker A:We'll get there on that.
Speaker A:We're going to take you through the.
Speaker A:The ABCs of ego exploitation and then.
Speaker C:We'Re going to watch Champagne and Bullets.
Speaker C:But we need to have stuff in between.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The movies are supposed to look.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that's wonderful.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We will do that.
Speaker B:We'll.
Speaker A:Champagne and Bullets.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I have the Blu ray, so we could do that together some point.
Speaker C:Oh yeah.
Speaker C:Whichever version.
Speaker C:Because he added stuff 20 years later.
Speaker A:I have the vinegar syndrome, which is all of them.
Speaker A:It's the get even cut.
Speaker A:It's Champagne and Bullets.
Speaker A:It's the whole.
Speaker A:There's like three different cuts.
Speaker A:I have all of them.
Speaker C:You know how I can bring this back to the room?
Speaker C:Apparently, according to Greg Cesto originally, Johnny was supposed to be revealed to be a vampire in the room.
Speaker C:Hey, do you think that movie makes more sense or less sense with that looking through that lens?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:Do you want to know what?
Speaker A:I think it makes more sense.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because then that gives you some context as to why he acts not he's in the way he does.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:I was interested.
Speaker C:Of course.
Speaker C:This is just from.
Speaker C:From Sestero.
Speaker A:I don't know if you've been thought about that one.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:But I.
Speaker C:I love the idea that he was going to make Johnny a vampire.
Speaker C:And I was like, I could one more.
Speaker C:Could this film support one more thing or.
Speaker C:Or is it like some sort of like that Topple gang game that just slips over?
Speaker A:It could have been the Jenga moment.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I don't know that it would because again, I think that explains stuff.
Speaker A:70 of the behavior now, of course.
Speaker C:He'S a day walker.
Speaker C:But, you know, we can excuse that from.
Speaker C:Or the plot.
Speaker A:The fact that they throw a football within three feet of each other.
Speaker C:Oh, my God, he loves football.
Speaker C:I think football is America to him because there's, like, at least two football throwing scenes.
Speaker C:Yeah, that.
Speaker C:That is very symbolic for him.
Speaker C:He's like, I made it because I'm making a movie and I'm tossing a football around of my friends, where I am paying to be my friends in this film.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's a.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I love it.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:There's something so interesting about a revealing film that is enjoyable in a way that was not intended, but it is still enjoyable.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Those are ones I really, you know, hold dear.
Speaker A:And the thing that.
Speaker A:Again, the thing that really gets me about it is how it's connected to so many people in so many weird.
Speaker A:You know, again, it's 23, 22 years later.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's probably the reason at least 10 podcasts exist.
Speaker A:Oh, guaranteed.
Speaker C:Oh, no, we lost KP.
Speaker C:That's okay, KP.
Speaker C:We're gonna.
Speaker C:We're keep vamping.
Speaker C:Don't worry.
Speaker C:Vamping.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:It's like, I didn't know to start that or.
Speaker C:This is the power of yso.
Speaker A:It is the power of Windsor.
Speaker C:KT again.
Speaker C:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:I heard everything, but I was.
Speaker B:I was frozen and I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:I'm having technical difficulties.
Speaker B:These.
Speaker B:But we're.
Speaker C:Obviously.
Speaker B:I'm back.
Speaker A:I saw it lock up on you for a half a second.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, no.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're good.
Speaker C:But professionals.
Speaker B:I heard it all.
Speaker B:It was wonderful being a vampire.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:But, yes.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm curious.
Speaker C:Fresh in your brain.
Speaker C:Would that have made it better, worse, or Indescribable?
Speaker B:I think indescribable.
Speaker B:Because, like, he's a good vampire.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker C:Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker B:He's a good vampire.
Speaker B:He's a gay.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:He's a day walker.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I don't understand how it ties into the rest of.
Speaker B:He's a good man.
Speaker C:And, like, how does anything tie into anything in that story?
Speaker B:Maybe it's just he.
Speaker B:I feel like it'd be more like he thought vampires were cool and wanted to be one.
Speaker A:Like, it was a Blade era, if we think about.
Speaker B:It would have been what, Interview with the Vampire.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah, I could.
Speaker C:I could see him being real into that.
Speaker B:Trying to just ride that.
Speaker B:And you said that he was Mr.
Speaker B:Like, Janco Jeans and.
Speaker C:Yeah, so that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:That tracks, like, personality Wise.
Speaker C:Yeah, I could see it.
Speaker C:I could see it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:In my head, I just every once in a while, I, I.
Speaker C:When I'm re.
Speaker C:Watching the room as.
Speaker C:As I.
Speaker C:I, I tend to with or without the rift tracks depending on where my brain is.
Speaker C:It's like you.
Speaker C:I can watch the vampire version.
Speaker C:I just have.
Speaker C:It's like an alternate track.
Speaker C:I just put my brain feeling go, okay, okay.
Speaker C:Johnny's a vampire when I rewatch it this time.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:I mean, if it was good thing there was not a cat at the florist because the cat would have hissed at him.
Speaker B:But the doggy florist scene.
Speaker A:My favorite customer.
Speaker C:You're my favorite.
Speaker C:Like, Like.
Speaker A:Oh, hi, Johnny.
Speaker A:I didn't recognize you.
Speaker A:What the did you just say?
Speaker C:Well, I guess if you were a vampire, that would be your interaction with the world.
Speaker C:Is this what humans think do?
Speaker C:Hello, flowers dog.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:It doesn't explain her actions, though.
Speaker A:Well, that's it.
Speaker B:But they're controlled from him ultimately, so.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because how many people on this godforsaken planet look like him to the point where she could mistake him for anyone else?
Speaker A:Like I say, I have been in a room eight feet away from the man.
Speaker A:There's no way he's anyone but Tommy Wiseau.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I assume he has an aura.
Speaker C:Like, I feel like you would know he was in the area before you visually saw him.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Like, what the.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:You feel it?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's a very vampiric quality because.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:The air turns cold approaches.
Speaker C:Maybe it was too close to the truth.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker C:He was like, oh, I can't give away all my secrets.
Speaker B:No, I gotta save something.
Speaker A:There's gotta be.
Speaker C:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:It also.
Speaker A:I mean, it could be real because I don't know that he's aged in the last 22 years.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, he.
Speaker B:Based on that IMDb picture, he's looking.
Speaker C:I mean, he's.
Speaker C:He's dedicated to that hair.
Speaker C:I will give him that.
Speaker A:That, that hair.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It is its own character.
Speaker A:Jet black still, which is impressive.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It looks dry as heck.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's.
Speaker B:He's looking a little worse for wear.
Speaker B:Just a smidge.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker C:Well, you know, he lives.
Speaker C:He lives a celebrity life.
Speaker A:The man is never not traveling, as near as I can tell.
Speaker B:I will say this.
Speaker B:It doesn't look like he's had plastic surgery, which kudos to him because he.
Speaker A:Could have been an absolute monster by now.
Speaker A:Like, he could have Jocelyn wild and stained him out.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Real bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:His IMDb picture looks like him making, like, the duck lips.
Speaker B:It's kind of funny.
Speaker C:Okay, I'm making this up now.
Speaker C:He's his.
Speaker B:He's staring into my soul.
Speaker B:It's very, like, MySpace profile picture.
Speaker C:I don't like this.
Speaker C:No, exactly.
Speaker B:That's what I mean.
Speaker C:No, no, no.
Speaker C:It's a cursed image.
Speaker B:It's MySpace profile picture.
Speaker C:You know what it is?
Speaker C:The light through the window when I woke up is looking pretty good.
Speaker C:It's good.
Speaker C:Selfie light.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker C:I feel like he just woke up, and I don't like being in that situation.
Speaker B:It's the duck lips.
Speaker B:It's the lighting.
Speaker C:Oh, there we go.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:Okay, but here's the thing.
Speaker C:He wants it to look like he just took this photo.
Speaker C:How long do you think it actually took to get that photo?
Speaker B:The entire camera rolled.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:This phone was basically like, you've run out of.
Speaker B:You've run out of space.
Speaker C:That's right.
Speaker C:The cloud is full.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's just fascinating because you can see, like, he is a calculated person.
Speaker C:And in this photo, I feel like I can see.
Speaker C:See that.
Speaker C:Calculate.
Speaker C:He's trying to.
Speaker C:He's calculating, being casual.
Speaker C:I don't think he's a person that casual comes too easy.
Speaker C:Or at all.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I was just distracted by Big Shark.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's okay.
Speaker C:You know what, Matt, you take a second.
Speaker C:You can take a second.
Speaker B:I'm watching later.
Speaker B:Good night, everybody.
Speaker C:So, well, we're ending this now.
Speaker C:Bye.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I get this is.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I don't know if complimentary, but it's not derogatory when I talk about why.
Speaker C:So it is interest.
Speaker C:Interest.
Speaker C:It is.
Speaker C:I am interested.
Speaker C:I'm also a little wary.
Speaker C:Like, I don't want to be around him.
Speaker C:I wish to watch him from a safe distance.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:We're observing with lab codes, like I.
Speaker B:An experiment, if you will.
Speaker B:Just see how you move through the world.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker B:We can see the reflection in your glasses.
Speaker C:What are you looking at?
Speaker C:Yeah, what you're looking at.
Speaker C:What you're looking at.
Speaker A:Tommy Wiseau is the villain in samurai.
Speaker A:Samurai Cop 2.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:No, you know what?
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I'm not.
Speaker C:I don't like these things combining.
Speaker C:I don't like.
Speaker C:Like, there's, like, a certain purity to a bad movie that came out, wasn't meant to be bad.
Speaker C:And then you do these sequels where all of a sudden they're combining.
Speaker A:Yeah, because here.
Speaker A:So we've got Tommy Wiseau and Bai Ling.
Speaker C:Yeah, okay.
Speaker C:See, they're trying too hard.
Speaker C:You're trying too hard at that point.
Speaker C:But, I mean, listen, I get trying to get your money.
Speaker C:Like, I know Deadliest Prey exists.
Speaker C:I know this.
Speaker C:I know this.
Speaker C:I'm not upset that they, like, took another bite at the apple.
Speaker C:But also, like, it just never.
Speaker C:You can't capture it.
Speaker C:You can't capture the.
Speaker B:The other.
Speaker B:Estevez.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Oh, Joe.
Speaker C:Estefans, is it?
Speaker C:Okay, why don't you say that to begin with, Matt?
Speaker C:Maybe I do have to watch this.
Speaker A:Do you know how far I had to scroll to get there, though?
Speaker C:Why won't you put.
Speaker C:Go home, Joe.
Speaker C:I don't talk to people who aren't in the movie.
Speaker B:See, Rift Tracks again, Sincerely is imprinted on my brain.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Movie.
Speaker A:Look at this.
Speaker B:Watch.
Speaker B:I need to watch Soul Taker.
Speaker B:What's.
Speaker C:Oh, Soul Taker.
Speaker C:Wild, wild film.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:It had almost what I'm looking for.
Speaker C:Someone really wanted to make, like, a supernatural thriller.
Speaker C:Didn't really have a whole lot of money.
Speaker C:Robert Zadar is in that, right?
Speaker C:Am I remembering that correctly?
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker C:The chin, it is.
Speaker C:I can see what they were trying to do.
Speaker C:I can see what they were trying to do, and I salute them for it.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I was like, oh, Soul Taker is a fun one.
Speaker A:Say, if Zadar is in it, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm there, right?
Speaker C: 'm so happy to see the Cherry: Speaker C:Another episode that you should check out for Anomaly Presents.
Speaker A:Go back to the archives.
Speaker C:He's not in it a lot, but I was like, look, it's the dar.
Speaker A:Every minute of Zadar is worth two minutes of any other actor.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We do have to remind people that we do watch regular good films here on Anomaly Presents.
Speaker C:Just every once in a while, they let us go a little nuts of the weird stuff.
Speaker A: re doing good films in Cherry: Speaker A:You're doing a lot of work there.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Do I have to fight you?
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:I enjoy it.
Speaker C: I like: Speaker C:I think it's a genuinely good film that does what it's put it sets out to do.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker A:By the measure, though, so does the room.
Speaker C:So I dulce it.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker B:Who goes to watch?
Speaker B:Audience.
Speaker C:I like to remain friends with you, Matt.
Speaker C:So we shall leave this conversation there.
Speaker A:We'll go back to our original argument.
Speaker A:What did the room do for Tommy Wiseau?
Speaker C:It gave him what he wanted.
Speaker A:And that's a success, is it not?
Speaker C:I see.
Speaker C:I see.
Speaker C:So we're not talking about the piece of art doing what the piece of art set out to do.
Speaker C:You're talking about the artist who made the piece of art.
Speaker C:Did.
Speaker C:Ah, I see, I see we're having two different conversations here.
Speaker A:Possibly.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'll give it to him.
Speaker C:Hey, I went to art school.
Speaker C:I gotta do something with this.
Speaker A:Okay, the art school and the English major are really battling it out on this one.
Speaker C:Okay, what does the mean?
Speaker C:Yeah, let's get granular with this.
Speaker A:I'll Michelle Foucault on your ass.
Speaker A:I don't care.
Speaker C:Kp, kp, save us with a spreadsheet.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker B:I, I went for like engineering.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:Like, this is what we need.
Speaker C:We need this energy.
Speaker B:Graphic engineering, but engineering all the same.
Speaker C:That's the closest any of the rest of us are getting.
Speaker C:There were numbers involved.
Speaker B:There were numbers involved.
Speaker B:I had to take calc.
Speaker B:I had to take plenty of physics.
Speaker B:I had to take optics.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I got a math credit with the 3D sculpture class.
Speaker C:I didn't make anything with a right angle in that film.
Speaker C:I made a.
Speaker C:In that class.
Speaker C:I made a drum out of a gourd and I got math credit for.
Speaker B:It jumps on you.
Speaker A:I told the story.
Speaker A:I had to get one math credit in college and I took algebra for non majors, which was.
Speaker A:They brought the 11th grade math teacher from Fredonia High School.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:In to teach all the com.
Speaker A:Majors and jocks.
Speaker A:Algebra.
Speaker C:These are numbers.
Speaker A:It was discontinued the semester after because they realized it was an 11th grade grade class.
Speaker C:Oh, but you got it in.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:And I got a C minus, so.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Loopholes.
Speaker B:The Pythagorean theorem.
Speaker B:Like, as an adult.
Speaker C:Holy kp, you're amazing.
Speaker B:I'm like, no, this is like nothing in comparison to regular, like actual.
Speaker C:No, no, no, listen.
Speaker C:You're talking to an art major and an English major.
Speaker C:We're.
Speaker C:We are going to be astounded.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:What comms in English.
Speaker A:It really wasn't going anywhere for me.
Speaker B:Like, I did get, I think either a minor or concentration in literature because you gotta have the arts.
Speaker B:You can't just be a scientist or else you turn evil.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker C:And this is what movies do for us.
Speaker C:We learn important lessons.
Speaker C:Like, yo, you're gonna bail.
Speaker C:You need some humanities in there.
Speaker C:Yeah, right, right, right.
Speaker C:That's how to get your Dr.
Speaker C:Dooms.
Speaker C:Actually, I take it back.
Speaker C:Dr.
Speaker C:Doom probably took humanities.
Speaker A:He's got the humanities in there.
Speaker A:Yeah, real life, guys.
Speaker C:Actually, Reed Richards is the one who needed more humanity.
Speaker C:I'm on to you, Richards.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:What a Jerk.
Speaker B:Play that in the movie.
Speaker C:But I can't.
Speaker C:Here's my thing.
Speaker C:I cannot imagine Pedro Pascal playing the side of Reed Richards.
Speaker C:We'll find out.
Speaker C:It'll break my heart a little.
Speaker C:Let me go.
Speaker C:No, I know you're an actor and I understand that, but also.
Speaker C:No, but then again, he won't be Reed Richards if he's not kind of a dick.
Speaker A:He's got to be kind of a dick.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The best version of Reed Richards is the one we know, and he's still kind of a dick.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:In all the multiverse, this is the most mellow one.
Speaker C:It's okay.
Speaker A:By the way, Meg, you are the first person I, I've talk to that is even thinking about that movie coming out.
Speaker C:It's, it's weird because there was like a little like, hey, they showed a, a trailer and then it went.
Speaker C:I, I, I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A:I'm excited that the guy from the Bear is in it.
Speaker A:He's fun.
Speaker C:I like that it's like, I like that it's a period piece because I think like, start them out because he'll bring them into the present, start them out where they started.
Speaker C:Because There is a certain 60s flare to the Fantastic Four.
Speaker A:I still stick by the fact they should have made the Peyton Reed one with them in the 60s, that first fantastic Four movie that Peyton Reed made, because he had just made the movie with, what was it?
Speaker A:Renee Zellweger and With Love.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:What a masterpiece.
Speaker C:That's the same.
Speaker C:With Love.
Speaker A:That's the same director.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker A:I'm pretty sure that's Peyton Reed, because Peyton Reed, I want to say he did Mr.
Speaker A:Show and then he did that.
Speaker C:Fascinating.
Speaker A:And then he was supposed to do Fantastic Four.
Speaker A:And one of the ideas for the original Fantastic Four, if I remember right, and this could just be what I wish happened, years of what I've done to my brain.
Speaker A:But I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be like a, like mid century space age Kirby.
Speaker C:I think that's, that's a great way to at least introduce them, like get that feeling.
Speaker A:But they had to go with that mcg vibe that nobody liked.
Speaker A:Am I right?
Speaker C:Is that, is that the Chris Evans one or is this the other one that there's been a lot of fantastic.
Speaker A:That is the Chris Evans one.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't see him tied to.
Speaker C:Ah.
Speaker A:Oh, maybe he was supposed to and didn't.
Speaker C:Yeah, I like that idea being a.
Speaker B:Good fit because like how down with.
Speaker C:Love like, yeah, that would be great.
Speaker B:Would have been, yeah.
Speaker B:Which I, that is the hope for, I guess, the new one.
Speaker C:I hope.
Speaker C:So here's the thing, is that, is it the, it's not the first Fantastic Four movie?
Speaker C:Because that's the Roger Corman one, the other one, but not the newest anyway.
Speaker C:The one with Chris Evans.
Speaker C:Are they good?
Speaker C:No, but I, I love that that kind of introduced him into superheroes, you know, like, and he actually was a really good Johnny Storm.
Speaker C:Like, I thought the casting was fairly good.
Speaker C:Elba, rough wig week.
Speaker C:That probably wasn't the best.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was like, oh, sometimes she's a little flat.
Speaker B:But I gotta go back.
Speaker B:I be like, I gotta go back and watch this.
Speaker B:Do I, do I need to go back and watch it?
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker C:I mean, I like that they, they brought in Silver Surfer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And Julian McMahon is doom.
Speaker C:He's a good Doom.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:They, they, they got, they got Doom.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:Which I I is probably more than could be said with what we're doing now with Downey.
Speaker A:I don't understand.
Speaker C:I, I, I, I, I'll say.
Speaker C:I think he's a fine actor.
Speaker C:I don't know why we're revisiting like, he had, he made his mark on Marvel.
Speaker C:Like, that's fine.
Speaker C:We're done.
Speaker C:Let somebody else take that role and just, I'm not saying he won't be good at it.
Speaker C:I just wish I want to see somebody else take it and, like, do their thing.
Speaker C:Be, be Doom.
Speaker A:Yeah, it could have been great for somebody else.
Speaker C:I just, I just want, like, it just.
Speaker C:Do Doom and Richards just have to basically, like, dick slapping each other?
Speaker C:Like, in all honesty, the entire movie is just them being to each other.
Speaker C:Because for me, that's the, that's what the real thing is.
Speaker C:Like, they, like, they kind of hate each other, but they can't stay away from each other because, like, they are both the same level of intelligence and they had to prove each other.
Speaker C:And also, you know, so Sue I love.
Speaker C:And then, then we'll have Neymar show up and then everyone wants Sue Storm.
Speaker C:I want to see her side of it where it's like, I need you all to be adults, please.
Speaker C:My brother's enough.
Speaker C:I don't need the rest of you like this.
Speaker C:Like, what's Sue's life like?
Speaker C:It's so much exhausting.
Speaker A:That's the movie I want.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, that should be Fantastic Four too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:There's an adult in the room and it's always me.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker C:And then no one Sees me and.
Speaker B:And Ben, right?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:He's just like, you know what?
Speaker C:He just is like, I'm just gonna be quiet.
Speaker C:I do not want to get involved.
Speaker C:Ben's smart enough to be like, you know, I didn't marry him.
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:One of us made a mistake.
Speaker A:We all knew he was a.
Speaker A:To start with, so there you go.
Speaker A:That's why Ben Grim's the best.
Speaker C:Anytime he's.
Speaker C:He's in full thing mode, but in a trench coat, I'm happy.
Speaker A:That's great.
Speaker C:I'm like, that's.
Speaker C:No, no, that's his look.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:I don't know why, but it's perfect.
Speaker C:Him in a trench coat.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:A hat.
Speaker C:A trench coat.
Speaker C:Still giant and rocks.
Speaker C:I love them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:I love them.
Speaker C:Oh, we're talking about the room, so.
Speaker A:The room.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I think we probably met the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We got to a good stopping point on the room.
Speaker A:I feel like we've done everything we.
Speaker C:Can do with that, you know, we can do.
Speaker C:We can think about what Tommy's.
Speaker C:Why.
Speaker C:So Fantastic Four would be, except for him as all four.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who would he want to be?
Speaker B:I think.
Speaker B:No, he would have.
Speaker B:He would be read.
Speaker B:But would he also want to be Johnny?
Speaker C:I feel like he would probably.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I feel like Greg's like, I'm right here.
Speaker C:And Tommy's like, But also I think me, though.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'll be like, Greg, you can be Ben.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He just puts them in like that.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker A:With the Corman rock suit is exactly fascinating.
Speaker C:And then he'll.
Speaker B:He'll get a blonde to play Sue.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:He has type.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So yeah, that.
Speaker A:That's been the room.
Speaker A:This has been Anomaly Presents.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We do a podcast.
Speaker A:We also do a film festival.
Speaker A:It's November 5th through the 9th.
Speaker A:This year.
Speaker A:We are.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:What What?
Speaker A:Air.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:The line that we are for.
Speaker A:For watching programming is are we knee deep, elbows deep, eyeballs deep in.
Speaker A:In programming that we're.
Speaker A:We're trying to get through to.
Speaker A:To bring to you this year?
Speaker C:Oh, I'm fully immersed, just with gills, swimming through cinema, finding the best.
Speaker C:It's like squirrel diving.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like what?
Speaker C:Oh, empty.
Speaker C:I don't know what this is, but.
Speaker C:No, this.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:The dingle hoppers that we are finding our next level this year.
Speaker A:It's honestly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Submit.
Speaker A:We're on film Freeway for Anomaly Film Fest.
Speaker A:If you are making something and would like to send it to Us.
Speaker A:Please do.
Speaker A:What's our deadline on that?
Speaker C:It's the.
Speaker C:I think regular is 6-3-30th and then I forget what.
Speaker C:The other thing.
Speaker B:I don't remember either.
Speaker B:It's in the calendar.
Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:August.
Speaker A:Ish.
Speaker A:Is your last chance for.
Speaker A:For romance with us this year.
Speaker B:You'll see it on socials because Megan is on top of it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:So here's the thing.
Speaker C:Even though I said just know, I don't know the date calendar, Megan has it.
Speaker C:It's already in the schedule calendar.
Speaker C:Megan's on it.
Speaker A:So it.
Speaker A:As you've no doubt ascertained if you've been with us for a while, dates are just vibes for us.
Speaker A:But we.
Speaker A:We always, always come up with a quality product at the end of it and we are completely immersed in making that happen for you.
Speaker A:We are at all facets of it.
Speaker A:The decoration of the theater, the programming.
Speaker A:Yeah, the only thing we don't do is concessions.
Speaker A:But we don't have to because the little.
Speaker A:Yeah, they got that shit dead to rights.
Speaker A:That's the best popcorn in the world.
Speaker A:Join us, won't you?
Speaker A:Yeah, It's Anomaly Film fest.
Speaker A:It's the 5th through the 9th of November this year.
Speaker A:Anomaly film fest dot com.
Speaker A:Keep an eye out on our socials.
Speaker A:We will be back in a couple weeks with another movie.
Speaker A:I don't know what yet because we usually decided about five minutes after we finish recording.
Speaker A:That's how we got to the room.
Speaker A:We hung up last week, last time we were here and went, what should we do, kp?
Speaker A:You haven't seen the room yet.
Speaker A:Well, I guess we're doing that.
Speaker C:We're good friends, everybody.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's how we.
Speaker A:That's how we operate.
Speaker A:Very sorry, kp, but yeah, so, yeah, we've been.
Speaker A:Anomaly presents.
Speaker A:You've been fantastic for listening and we will catch you next time.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Goodbye.
Speaker C:Bye.
Speaker A:This has been a presentation of the Lunchadore podcast Network.
